Trump's Economic Plan

[Speaker to Animals]

If we are going to do this, and Canada is going to drag their feet about insuring the risks, then we ought to charge you a toll per barrel of oil that is transported across our nation.

[Speaker to Animals]

The deal as it stands offers us practically nothing.

That's still more than nothing you faggot. You just want more and you'll get more, just not the highway robbery of Canada that you are after is all. The deal should not be rigged entirely in America's favor and to our detriment and that is what you propose in place of a win-win. Kindly fuck off.

Can you name anything we get out of it?

All I see are people saying it will create 10k jobs.. for only two years.. after which the pipeline will employ at most 50 people. But the risks of spillage remain, and Canada contributes exactly ZERO DOLLARS to mitigate it.

Fuck that deal.

[StCapps]

Fuck that deal.

So ask for a better one, just don't ask for way more than you could ever dream of getting out of the deal. That is just asinine and it's your go to plan. Unlike Trump you don't plan on pivoting to the center after the outrageous opening offer, no you plan on making your negotiation position even more extreme after your outrageous opening offer. You are doing it wrong dummy, that's the opposite of how you should be negotiating.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Fuck that deal.

So ask for a better one, just don't ask for way more than you could ever dream of getting out of the deal. That is just asinine and it's your go to plan.

Nah. You want the pipeline, you make the opening offer. This deal appears to be bullshit.

[Speaker to Animals]

Fuck that deal.

So ask for a better one, just don't ask for way more than you could ever dream of getting out of the deal. That is just asinine and it's your go to plan. Unlike Trump you don't plan on pivoting to the center after the outrageous opening offer, no you plan on making your negotiation position even more extreme after your outrageous opening offer. You are doing it wrong dummy.

We are not the ones who want anything here. It's Canada's job to offer a deal that is favorable to Americans. We don't need any of this.

I already gave you a hint at what would seem reasonable to me personally. I think 20% of the revenue from the oil sold out of that pipeline is worth our time and the risk involved.

I would tell you guys to fuck off. Just because your oil sands corporations can bribe a bunch of GOPe congressman doesn't convince me one bit.

[StCapps]

Nah. You want the pipeline, you make the opening offer. This deal appears to be bullshit.

To anti-oil reflexive pipeline haters maybe. The deal could be better for the US, and we await your counter-offer. But the deal is not bullshit, your opinion of the deal is though. Y'all base your disapproval of the deal on EnviroBolshie propaganda, step your game up. StA also just wants to rip Canada off, but will never get away with it.

Trump will give Canada it's pipeline and won't fleece us either. So suck it, you and StA aren't getting your way on this, much to my delight.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Nah. You want the pipeline, you make the opening offer. This deal appears to be bullshit.

To anti-oil reflexive pipeline haters maybe. The deal could be better for the US, and we await your counter-offer. But the deal is not bullshit, your opinion of the deal is though. Y'all base your disapproval of the deal on EnviroBolshie propaganda, step your game up. StA also just wants to rip Canada off, but will never get away with it.

Trump will give Canada it's pipeline and won't fleece us either. So suck it, you and StA aren't getting your way on this, much to my delight.

Dude, he's scary. Don't mess with him, or you'll get a gang of Dads marching through Quebec and throwing themselves under the feet of brown people, and screaming for media coverage.

Im totally gonna write my senator about this pipeline deal though. Not MAGA.

[ssu]

We can afford to clean up a spill from a container car. We cannot afford to clean up the spill from Keystone rupturing.

Whoa, what logic! How about looking at the accidents per transported barrell? Pipelines are the basic way you transport oil on land. And for sound reasons. There's about 2,5 million miles of pipeline in the US. And btw the below statistic tells quite well just how safe rail transport is to road transport. (If there's one thing the US does right in transportation, it's that freight is hauled by trains.)



The reactivation of the Keystone pipeline is one of the most sound and reasonable exective actions Trump has made. Because if you don't make a pipeline, then it's transferred either By rail or road, which is more dangerous. And then Trump fans bitch about it???

And if the US doesn't want Canadian Oil, well, Canada can then naturally turn around and sell to an eager China their oil. In even greater quantities. The built infrastructure itself is very important as it really defines just where you can sell your oil. For example, natural gas has been WAY more expensive in Europe and in Asia than in the US. So why doesn't cheap US nat. gas flood the market? Simple, there's simply not the infrastructure to do that and transportation is still rather expensive.



Just how many pipelines you have:

[Smitty-48]

Thank you, President Trump, for allowing us to spurt our dirty oil up America's pristine ass crack with our fat salty pipeline cock, Canada First!

[Speaker to Animals]

Take that voxing bullshit somewhere else.

Since 1995, there have been more than 2,000 significant accidents involving pipelines carrying crude oil and refined petroleum products that have caused about $3 billion in property damage, according to data from the federal office that oversees pipeline safety, the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration. That's an average of a little over 100 per year. But after dipping to 77 in 2009, that figure has spiked to at least 121 in each of the past two years.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagot ... ile&espv=1

Number one: setup a system where by Canada pays for all damages if their oil causes this kind of damage.

Number two: make it worth our while to allow Canada to transport that oil across our territory. It's not our oil and we get absolutely nothing out of their transporting it through our territory and selling it on the international market.

Number three: you are being ridiculous when you compare the impact of a massive pipeline rupture with even the worst train wreck. Absolutely fucking ridiculous.