Russia! Russia!! Russia!!!

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Post by Okeefenokee » Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:21 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:Guys, is the left seriously going to carry on this farce for the entirety of the next eight years? It's funny now, but a few months from now, it's going to get annoying.
They clearly think they can still turn this thing around, like when I was watching the Falcons get stomped in the Super Bowl when I was about twelve, and thought they could still rally from behind in the fourth, being down by four or five touchdowns.
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Re: Russia! Russia!! Russia!!!

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:22 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:Guys, is the left seriously going to carry on this farce for the entirety of the next eight years? It's funny now, but a few months from now, it's going to get annoying.
They clearly think they can still turn this thing around, like when I was watching the Falcons get stomped in the Super Bowl when I was about twelve, and thought they could still rally from behind in the fourth, being down by four or five touchdowns.

Maybe they plan to go Wolverines on us.

There's no organic, gluten-free restaurants in the mountains, though, so maybe not.

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Post by pineapplemike » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:40 pm



:eusa-think:

edit: oh this is a few days old, probably not as big of a story as i thought at first. not sure why i thought it was a big deal at all, actually

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Post by Alexander PhiAlipson » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:54 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:Guys, is the left seriously going to carry on this farce for the entirety of the next eight years? It's funny now, but a few months from now, it's going to get annoying.
They clearly think they can still turn this thing around, like when I was watching the Falcons get stomped in the Super Bowl when I was about twelve, and thought they could still rally from behind in the fourth, being down by four or five touchdowns.

Maybe they plan to go Wolverines on us.

There's no organic, gluten-free restaurants in the mountains, though, so maybe not.
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Post by kybkh » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:08 pm

Does Russia even exist anymore??

Hersh said many media outlets failed to provide context when reporting on the intelligence assessment made public in the waning days of the Obama administration that was purported to put to rest any doubt that Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the hacking of the DNC and Clinton campaign manager John Podesta’s emails....“It’s high camp stuff,” Hersh told The Intercept. “What does an assessment mean? It’s not a national intelligence estimate. If you had a real estimate, you would have five or six dissents. One time they said 17 agencies all agreed. Oh really? The Coast Guard and the Air Force — they all agreed on it? And it was outrageous and nobody did that story. An assessment is simply an opinion. If they had a fact, they’d give it to you. An assessment is just that. It’s a belief. And they’ve done it many times.”



https://theintercept.com/2017/01/25/sey ... ing-story/
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:54 am

He might be on to something here..
Another serious challenge to Russia's identity is linked to events taking place in the world. Here there are both foreign policy and moral aspects. We can see how many of the Euro-Atlantic countries are actually rejecting their roots, including the Christian values that constitute the basis of Western civilisation. They are denying moral principles and all traditional identities: national, cultural, religious and even sexual. They are implementing policies that equate large families with same-sex partnerships, belief in God with the belief in Satan.

The excesses of political correctness have reached the point where people are seriously talking about registering political parties whose aim is to promote paedophilia. People in many European countries are embarrassed or afraid to talk about their religious affiliations. Holidays are abolished or even called something different; their essence is hidden away, as is their moral foundation. And people are aggressively trying to export this model all over the world. I am convinced that this opens a direct path to degradation and primitivism, resulting in a profound demographic and moral crisis.

What else but the loss of the ability to self-reproduce could act as the greatest testimony of the moral crisis facing a human society? Today almost all developed nations are no longer able to reproduce themselves, even with the help of migration. Without the values ​​embedded in Christianity and other world religions, without the standards of morality that have taken shape over millennia, people will inevitably lose their human dignity. We consider it natural and right to defend these values​​. One must respect every minority’s right to be different, but the rights of the majority must not be put into question.

At the same time we see attempts to somehow revive a standardised model of a unipolar world and to blur the institutions of international law and national sovereignty. Such a unipolar, standardised world does not require sovereign states; it requires vassals. In a historical sense this amounts to a rejection of one’s own identity, of the God-given diversity of the world.
https://www.rt.com/politics/official-wo ... -idea-142/

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Post by ssu » Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:14 pm

pineapplemike wrote: :eusa-think:

edit: oh this is a few days old, probably not as big of a story as i thought at first. not sure why i thought it was a big deal at all, actually
The big deal was that Russia, Iran, Syria and Turkey, discussed and planned a cease-fire... with no US participation in the first place.
kybkh wrote:Does Russia even exist anymore??
Yes. I can myself confirm it.

Last time I was at the border from my country place, it wasn't the Chinese on the other side of the border. It was Russia and the Russians. Still.

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Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:15 pm

ssu wrote:The big deal was that Russia, Iran, Syria and Turkey, discussed and planned a cease-fire... with no US participation in the first place.
If you think about it, it's not really a big deal. Nations on the other side of the world dealing with a problem on the other side of the world. One would think that the big deal would have been if the US once again was dealing with a problem who's neighbors had neglected to remedy.
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Post by de officiis » Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:00 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:He might be on to something here..
Another serious challenge to Russia's identity is linked to events taking place in the world. Here there are both foreign policy and moral aspects. We can see how many of the Euro-Atlantic countries are actually rejecting their roots, including the Christian values that constitute the basis of Western civilisation. They are denying moral principles and all traditional identities: national, cultural, religious and even sexual. They are implementing policies that equate large families with same-sex partnerships, belief in God with the belief in Satan.

The excesses of political correctness have reached the point where people are seriously talking about registering political parties whose aim is to promote paedophilia. People in many European countries are embarrassed or afraid to talk about their religious affiliations. Holidays are abolished or even called something different; their essence is hidden away, as is their moral foundation. And people are aggressively trying to export this model all over the world. I am convinced that this opens a direct path to degradation and primitivism, resulting in a profound demographic and moral crisis.

What else but the loss of the ability to self-reproduce could act as the greatest testimony of the moral crisis facing a human society? Today almost all developed nations are no longer able to reproduce themselves, even with the help of migration. Without the values ​​embedded in Christianity and other world religions, without the standards of morality that have taken shape over millennia, people will inevitably lose their human dignity. We consider it natural and right to defend these values​​. One must respect every minority’s right to be different, but the rights of the majority must not be put into question.

At the same time we see attempts to somehow revive a standardised model of a unipolar world and to blur the institutions of international law and national sovereignty. Such a unipolar, standardised world does not require sovereign states; it requires vassals. In a historical sense this amounts to a rejection of one’s own identity, of the God-given diversity of the world.
https://www.rt.com/politics/official-wo ... -idea-142/
Food for thought...
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Re: Russia! Russia!! Russia!!!

Post by kybkh » Thu Mar 30, 2017 11:53 am

https://www.c-span.org/video/?426227-1/ ... terference

Quite the intrigue on Capitol Hill.

Hard to picture the endgame being anything other than moving closer to military conflict with Russia after this shit show.

The lack of context being provided to the American Public is extremely dangerous.

The propaganda being aired today by the US Govt is pathetic and rather impossible to conceive that it will have any affect other than foment the masses and justify further military expenditures.

This all goes back the the sequester and the threat a reduction in defense spending posed to all branches of the military.

The Left was ready to walk away from "Cold War" thinking...



This article from March 10, 2011 talks about how Clapper was forced by the Obama Admin to walk back this statement to Congress:

During an appearance before the Senate Armed Services Committee hearing on worldwide threats, Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., asked Clapper which country posed the greatest threat to the United States.

"Certainly, the Russians still have a very formidable nuclear arsenal, which does pose potentially a mortal threat to us," Clapper said. "I don't think they have the intent to do that."...

Committee chairman Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., told Clapper he was surprised by his answer that Russia and China posed the greatest mortal threat and gave him an opportunity to clarify whether Iran or North Korea might be more of a threat.


Clapper said he came to his conclusion because there is a strategic nuclear reduction agreement between the U.S. and Russia, while none exists with China.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/russia-c ... d=13104936


MAY 11, 2012 NYT

Mitt Romney’s recent declaration that Russia is America’s top geopolitical adversary drew raised eyebrows and worse from many Democrats, some Republicans and the Russians themselves, all of whom suggested that Mr. Romney was misguidedly stuck in a cold war mind-set.

Mr. Romney was a leading opponent of the most recent arms-reduction treaty with Russia, ratified by the Senate and signed last year by Mr. Obama. Russia figures prominently in Mr. Romney’s book, where he calls it one of four competitors for world leadership, along with the United States, China and “violent jihadism” embraced by Iran and terrorist groups.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/12/us/po ... ebate.html

And the narrative of Russia being bad is continued...

August 28, 2012

A joint U.S.-Russia military training exercise earlier this year is raising concerns on Capitol Hill that U.S. military cooperation will increase the threat posed by Moscow’s military to friends and allies in Europe.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security ... ed-in-u-s/

JULY 2, 2014 The "obvious" becomes obvious...

According to a new study, United States defense leaders should focus more on a “great power conflict” reflective of a newly aggressive Russia and rapidly modernizing China. Doing so would force the Defense Department to modernize its existing force and invest significantly in maintaining technological advantages at the expense of unlikely-to-be used ships, aircraft and soldiers. Among the arsenal the U.S. should keep: the full triad of bombers, submarines and intercontinental ballistic missiles meant to deter or carry out nuclear warfare.

http://www.defenseone.com/threats/2014/ ... get/87802/

However, as recently as March 2016...

Sequestration Poses Biggest Threat to Readiness, Military Leaders Say

Sequestration is a provision of the Budget Control Act of 2011 that imposes across-the-board spending cuts if Congress and the White House cannot agree on more targeted cuts aimed at reducing the budget deficit.

The uncertain and restrictive budget environment is forcing the Army to make tough choices, the vice chief of staff of the Army, Gen. Daniel B. Allyn, told the Senate Armed Services Committee.


https://www.defense.gov/News/Article/Ar ... eaders-say
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