President Trump - 1st State of the Union

[Okeefenokee]

Black lung, y'all.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Black lung, y'all.

It’s not just for grandpa!

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

New technologies are often subsidized because R&D is expensive, and not initially profitable. That isn't inherently a boondoggle.

Not inherently, but it often is a boondoggle, because solar and wind aren't ready for primetime, for the most part, the environmentalists just wish that they were, but wishful thinking doesn't make it so.

Throwing money at boondoggles in the name of R&D is as stupid as throwing money at boondoggles for any other noble reason, the road to hell is paved with good intentions, good intentions don't always equal good results.

Yeah it like the white elephant in the room, Instead of giving money to NK and Iran by the billions for nuclear "power" why don't we do the same?

Ah, Nookyuhler. A fine example of a technology that the gub'ment had a hand in developing, and that we don't exactly want the market regulating and maintaining without oversight.

The mighty atom should certainly be a part of American energy infrastructure. And we can still invest in renewable and green energies: win, win, win.

[clubgop]

Not inherently, but it often is a boondoggle, because solar and wind aren't ready for primetime, for the most part, the environmentalists just wish that they were, but wishful thinking doesn't make it so.

Throwing money at boondoggles in the name of R&D is as stupid as throwing money at boondoggles for any other noble reason, the road to hell is paved with good intentions, good intentions don't always equal good results.

Yeah it like the white elephant in the room, Instead of giving money to NK and Iran by the billions for nuclear "power" why don't we do the same?

Ah, Nookyuhler. A fine example of a technology that the gub'ment had a hand in developing, and that we don't exactly want the market regulating and maintaining without oversight.

The mighty atom should certainly be a part of American energy infrastructure. And we can still invest in renewable and green energies: win, win, win.

No not really. Nuclear is also heavily subsidized and extremely expensive to build. All the benefits are on the backend. But the end result yields tremendous power that other forms of "green" energy are unnecessary.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Yeah it like the white elephant in the room, Instead of giving money to NK and Iran by the billions for nuclear "power" why don't we do the same?

Ah, Nookyuhler. A fine example of a technology that the gub'ment had a hand in developing, and that we don't exactly want the market regulating and maintaining without oversight.

The mighty atom should certainly be a part of American energy infrastructure. And we can still invest in renewable and green energies: win, win, win.

No not really. Nuclear is also heavily subsidized and extremely expensive to build. All the benefits are on the backend. But the end result yields tremendous power that other forms of "green" energy are unnecessary.

Scare quotes aside, improving the yield of renewable and low polluting energy production so we aren't entirely reliant on either fossil fuels or nuclear power is a good idea, long term. Being intransigent over Federal investment in those technologies is just absurd.

[clubgop]

Ah, Nookyuhler. A fine example of a technology that the gub'ment had a hand in developing, and that we don't exactly want the market regulating and maintaining without oversight.

The mighty atom should certainly be a part of American energy infrastructure. And we can still invest in renewable and green energies: win, win, win.

No not really. Nuclear is also heavily subsidized and extremely expensive to build. All the benefits are on the backend. But the end result yields tremendous power that other forms of "green" energy are unnecessary.

Scare quotes aside, improving the yield of renewable and low polluting energy production so we aren't entirely reliant on either fossil fuels or nuclear power is a good idea, long term. Being intransigent over Federal investment in those technologies is just absurd.

I like birds and I dont like skin cancer. Fuck those boondoggles.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

No not really. Nuclear is also heavily subsidized and extremely expensive to build. All the benefits are on the backend. But the end result yields tremendous power that other forms of "green" energy are unnecessary.

Scare quotes aside, improving the yield of renewable and low polluting energy production so we aren't entirely reliant on either fossil fuels or nuclear power is a good idea, long term. Being intransigent over Federal investment in those technologies is just absurd.

I like birds and I dont like skin cancer. Fuck those boondoggles.

Birds are gay, and I am pretty sure the strength of the sun's rays don't change based on the amount of solar panels on Earth. Also, dams are badass. We haven't built a proper dam in this country in far too long.

[clubgop]

Scare quotes aside, improving the yield of renewable and low polluting energy production so we aren't entirely reliant on either fossil fuels or nuclear power is a good idea, long term. Being intransigent over Federal investment in those technologies is just absurd.

I like birds and I dont like skin cancer. Fuck those boondoggles.

Birds are gay, and I am pretty sure the strength of the sun's rays don't change based on the amount of solar panels on Earth. Also, dams are badass. We haven't built a proper dam in this country in far too long.

I like fish. Hydro is all the excuse of nuclear with very little output.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

I like birds and I dont like skin cancer. Fuck those boondoggles.

Birds are gay, and I am pretty sure the strength of the sun's rays don't change based on the amount of solar panels on Earth. Also, dams are badass. We haven't built a proper dam in this country in far too long.

I like fish. Hydro is all the excuse of nuclear with very little output.

You're right. We should base energy policy on which animals we like. Very progressive.

[Ex-California]

Hey...... where the Hell ya been.... missed ya

I've honestly been watching too much Netflix and less forum surfing. Missed you all too