Merican Nazi: An Origin story

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Re: Merican Nazi: An Origin story

Post by clubgop » Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:04 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:Pffft, typical Americans, treason if it's the other team, but if it's my team, not treason, it's no wonder America is as corrupt as a rotten apple.

There was no war declared against the Soviet Union, selling them arms without the rule of law would have been treasonous as much as selling arms to the Iranian Mullah's was.

All you Americans do is make excuses for your ideological fellow travelers, while indicting your ideological opponents for every crime in the book, who knew?
What? Dude I just said that would not have been treason it would have been a hundred other federal statutes just not that one.

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:05 pm

We may never know.

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Re: Merican Nazi: An Origin story

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:06 pm

That charge is treason against the Executive, the military charge of treason, but when the Executive commits treason by any other name, it is against the republic. High Crimes and Misdemeanors includes treason against the republic.
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Re: Merican Nazi: An Origin story

Post by clubgop » Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:07 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:He violated the separation of powers, to acquire off the book funds, by selling weapons to the enemy, in order to conduct military actions in contravention of the law. Treason by any other name, against the republic at the very least, but of course, partisan hackery takes precedence over the republic, hence why its such a dumpster fire.
Nope, not even close. Impeachable? Maybe. Criminal, that would be a tight needle to thread but it is not treason. We are overly litigious and legally specific here not everything that offends the tender sensibilities of a inbred monarch is treason.

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Re: Merican Nazi: An Origin story

Post by clubgop » Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:08 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:That charge is treason against the Executive, the military charge of treason, but when the Executive commits treason by any other name, it is against the republic.
Nope.

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Re: Merican Nazi: An Origin story

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:08 pm

clubgop wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:He violated the separation of powers, to acquire off the book funds, by selling weapons to the enemy, in order to conduct military actions in contravention of the law. Treason by any other name, against the republic at the very least, but of course, partisan hackery takes precedence over the republic, hence why its such a dumpster fire.
Nope, not even close. Impeachable? Maybe. Criminal, that would be a tight needle to thread but it is not treason. We are overly litigious and legally specific here not everything that offends the tender sensibilities of a inbred monarch is treason.
Impeachable for what? Answer; treason by any other name.
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Re: Merican Nazi: An Origin story

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:13 pm

If the President can violate his oath to the constitution, by selling arms to the enemies of the republic, in order to fund unlawful military actions in contravention of the congress, then no President is that, that there is an absolute monarch by any other name.

If you can get away with that, you can get away with anything, to include ignoring the electoral college and retaining power in lieu of democracy.
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Re: Merican Nazi: An Origin story

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:16 pm

Why not? It's a living document, right? We just need to discover a new definition for a few words in the Constitution and do whatever the fuck we want.

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Re: Merican Nazi: An Origin story

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:18 pm

That's how Vladimir Putin operates, the facade of a Presidency, over an absolute dictatorship. Russia has a constitution, they simply ignore it.
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Re: Merican Nazi: An Origin story

Post by clubgop » Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:32 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
clubgop wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:He violated the separation of powers, to acquire off the book funds, by selling weapons to the enemy, in order to conduct military actions in contravention of the law. Treason by any other name, against the republic at the very least, but of course, partisan hackery takes precedence over the republic, hence why its such a dumpster fire.
Nope, not even close. Impeachable? Maybe. Criminal, that would be a tight needle to thread but it is not treason. We are overly litigious and legally specific here not everything that offends the tender sensibilities of a inbred monarch is treason.
Impeachable for what? Answer; treason by any other name.
Nope not even close. You can be impeached because they don't like you. It is a political instrument not a legal one.