The left vs the 23% white separatist contingent

[LVH2]

Then you don't know what racism is, and you are overly paranoid about racism. Some cultures assimilate better than others, just because a country chooses to acknowledge that and adapt it's immigration quotas accordingly, that doesn't make them racist.

Brazil has a large Japanese population that does just fine. For them to pick out one group, based on no criteria other than race, and say, "there are too many people like that," would be racist in the sense of the word I am using.

Racism is a vague word with many different uses. It's meaning is not an objective truth written in the heavens that you alone have access to.

I don't really know what Quebec is doing. But, if you have an ethnic state, like Finland, and you want to clamp down on immigration I don't really have much of a problem. I think Nuke talked about Japan, where you have to prove your are Japanese 3 generations back or something. That's fine. I wouldn't make it explicitly racial though.

Leads to some other nonsense as well. Would be fun to have congressional hearings on what counts as white. Greeks and Italians? Argentinians? Turks? Jews? Shakira?

What if you are 1/4 Persian 1/4 German and 1/2 Italian? Do you get in?

[StCapps]

There is absolutely no reason ever to mention Quebec when searching for an analogous situation to forming a race based ethno-state in the US.

Yeah never look to other examples of a White Ethno State on the same continent when envisioning what a White Ethno State elsewhere on the same continent may look like. There is absolutely no reason to ever think like that.....

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

There is absolutely no reason ever to mention Quebec when searching for an analogous situation to forming a race based ethno-state in the US.

Yeah never look to other examples of a White Ethno State on the same continent when envisioning what a White Ethno State elsewhere on the same continent may look like. There is absolutely no reason to ever think like that.....

Ethno-state does not mean white ethno-state, even if said ethno-state has a white majority.

If you find the part of Quebec law that specifically mentions being white, I'll concede, but as I understand it, it has more to do with being Catholic and speaking French.

[StCapps]

For them to pick out one group, based on no criteria other than race, and say, "there are too many people like that," would be racist in the sense of the word I am using.

So you can't single out a group based on culture? That's racist?

Racism is a vague word with many different uses. It's meaning is not an objective truth written in the heavens that you alone have access to.

I don't really know what Quebec is doing. But, if you have an ethnic state, like Finland, and you want to clamp down on immigration I don't really have much of a problem. I think Nuke talked about Japan, where you have to prove your are Japanese 3 generations back or something. That's fine. I wouldn't make it explicitly racial though.

Leads to some other nonsense as well. Would be fun to have congressional hearings on what counts as white. Greeks and Italians? Argentinians? Turks? Jews? Shakira?

What if you are 1/4 Persian 1/4 German and 1/2 Italian? Do you get in?[/quote]I see nothing wrong with a Je Sanguinis Ethno State. I don't want to live such a state, but I don't have any problem with one existing, even within the nation that I live in, even in the same province, right down the road.

[StCapps]

Ethno-state does not mean white ethno-state, even if said ethno-state has a white majority.

Actually it does. Just because it's a French Catholic Ethno State doesn't mean that it isn't also a White Ethno State, a French Catholic Ethno State is simply one variety of a White Ethno State.

A French Ethno State isn't a Pan-Euro Ethno State, but I never claimed that it was, and a Pan-Euro Ethno State isn't the only true kind of White Ethno State, like you seem to think.
/shrugs

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Just for fun, let me reiterate why making race based laws is a particularly noxious concept:

You can enshrine cultural artifacts, language, or religion in law, if you are inclined, because those are laws that can be conformed to.

Enshrining race is making a law that people can not follow. For the rule of law to hold, it requires not conformity, but eugenics. This is why making a racial ethno-state lends itself to worst-case-scenario thinking, and isn't analogous to ethnicity specific states.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Ethno-state does not mean white ethno-state, even if said ethno-state has a white majority.

Actually it does. Just because it's a French Catholic Ethno State doesn't mean that it isn't also a White Ethno State, a French Catholic Ethno State is simply one variety of a White Ethno State.

A French Ethno State isn't a Pan-Euro Ethno State, but I never claimed that it was.
/shrugs

If you can cite a Quebec law that makes reference to race, please do.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Ethno-state does not mean white ethno-state, even if said ethno-state has a white majority.

Actually it does. Just because it's a French Catholic Ethno State doesn't mean that it isn't also a White Ethno State, a French Catholic Ethno State is simply one variety of a White Ethno State.

A French Ethno State isn't a Pan-Euro Ethno State, but I never claimed that it was.
/shrugs

If you can cite a Quebec law that makes reference to race, please do.

I'm also curious whether he can cite any laws giving preferential treatment to Catholics, specifically.

[LVH2]

For them to pick out one group, based on no criteria other than race, and say, "there are too many people like that," would be racist in the sense of the word I am using.

So you can't single out a group based on culture? That's racist?

On race.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Actually it does. Just because it's a French Catholic Ethno State doesn't mean that it isn't also a White Ethno State, a French Catholic Ethno State is simply one variety of a White Ethno State.

A French Ethno State isn't a Pan-Euro Ethno State, but I never claimed that it was.
/shrugs

If you can cite a Quebec law that makes reference to race, please do.

I'm also curious whether he can cite any laws giving preferential treatment to Catholics, specifically.

They have only Catholic state schools, I believe, which counts for me.