Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

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Re: Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

Post by adwinistrator » Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:05 pm

Video taken from the area while the shooter was still active

Can't see shit, dude's in cover, but you can hear the confusion and shots being fired, as well as the police taking him down.

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Re: Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

Post by The Conservative » Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:10 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
The Conservative wrote:You and I may be made that way
I wasn't made this way, I was raised by Hippie Beatniks, was Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II & Co what turned me to a master of arms.
I consider that being raised... meh. Either way, I still feel people have been raised mostly by a flight mentality than a fight one.
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Re: Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:13 pm

Republican senators and congressmen should start carrying everywhere. It's hard to believe the left will stop fomenting political violence. More likely, they will increase it. The MSM is especially egregious.

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Re: Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:24 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
The Conservative wrote:You and I may be made that way
I wasn't made this way, I was raised by Hippie Beatniks, was Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II & Co what turned me to a master of arms.
I consider that being raised... meh. Either way, I still feel people have been raised mostly by a flight mentality than a fight one.
Once armed I always found the recruits basic instinct was to attempt to return fire, but not move at all as they did, neither advance nor retreat, the shoot circuit closed easily enough, it's the shoot while move circuit which doesn't come naturally, the main thing is just to get them to shoot as they move in one fluid motion, even if withdrawing, it's not hard to train, takes about a day or so.

By the end of the first week should be able to throw an ambush scenario at them and have the whole course pile on instinctively, hit them in the meal line, coming out of the classroom, wherever, pop some gas on them too, just to add complexity to the mix.

Pop quiz; half of them return fire while the other half don respirators, which ones are correct?
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Re: Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:04 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
I wasn't made this way, I was raised by Hippie Beatniks, was Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II & Co what turned me to a master of arms.
I consider that being raised... meh. Either way, I still feel people have been raised mostly by a flight mentality than a fight one.
Once armed I always found the recruits basic instinct was to attempt to return fire, but not move at all as they did, neither advance nor retreat, the shoot circuit closed easily enough, it's the shoot while move circuit which doesn't come naturally, the main thing is just to get them to shoot as they move in one fluid motion, even if withdrawing, it's not hard to train, takes about a day or so.

By the end of the first week should be able to throw an ambush scenario at them and have the whole course pile on instinctively, hit them in the meal line, coming out of the classroom, wherever, pop some gas on them too, just to add complexity to the mix.

Pop quiz; half of them return fire while the other half don respirators, which ones are correct?
OK, I'll bite. Respirators first, can't shoot later if you are dead from gas attack.
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Re: Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:14 pm

Montegriffo wrote:OK, I'll bite. Respirators first, can't shoot later if you are dead from gas attack.
Pass. Respirators first, always, mission before men; probable ambush attrition 50%, probable nerve agent attrition 100%.

Note; respirator can be donned from reverse prone position, if under fire execute masking drill while lying on your back.
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Re: Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:33 pm

You should have trained to put on your mopp gear pretty fast too.

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Re: Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:38 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:You should have trained to put on your mopp gear pretty fast too.
Cold Warriors, wot? In my day, it was nuke suits on all the time, 16 weeks straight in a nuke suit; enjoy.
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Re: Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:39 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:You should have trained to put on your mopp gear pretty fast too.
Cold Warriors, wot? In my day, it was nuke suits on all the time, 16 weeks straight in a nuke suit; enjoy.

It sucks giant balls in the desert though.

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Re: Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:42 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:You should have trained to put on your mopp gear pretty fast too.
Cold Warriors, wot? In my day, it was nuke suits on all the time, 16 weeks straight in a nuke suit; enjoy.
It sucks giant balls in the desert though.
Digging trenches in hard clay, nuke suits on, high summer at 40C? Might as well been the desert, it's not like we would have noticed the extra 10 degrees C at that point.

tbh, would have preferred the desert to a Petawawa summer; less humidity and at least it cools off at night, in fuckin' Canader, was still 35C at midnight.
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