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Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:29 am

Replacing Obamacare- Going swimmingly... we got a whole thread on it.
Draining the Swamp- C+ at best so far.
Illegals- Anyone who thinks the wall will be useful here has brain damage.
Economy working for middle class- Let's get Mnuchin right on that one, miserable shit that he is, because Trump's apparent total confusion about monetary policy (or have we already forgotten about that amidst all the other nonsense?) might make this one a tough nut to crack for him.

Trump is spending his 100 days of good will on snipe hunts.
HAIL!

Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
-Hwen

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Post by PartyOf5 » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:36 am

Kath wrote: In fact, murder rate is at historical lows, not historical highs.
Um, no?

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/20 ... es/table-3

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder- ... -and-state
For 2015, the average Murder Rate of Death Penalty states was 5.1, while the average Murder Rate of States without the Death Penalty was 4.1

For 2014, the average Murder Rate of Death Penalty states was 4.7, while the average Murder Rate of States without the Death Penalty was 3.8

For 2013, the average Murder Rate of Death Penalty states was 4.4, while the average Murder Rate of States without the Death Penalty was 3.4

For 2012, the average Murder Rate of Death Penalty States was 4.7, while the average Murder Rate of States without the Death Penalty was 3.7

For 2011, the average Murder Rate of Death Penalty States was 4.7, while the average Murder Rate of States without the Death Penalty was 3.1

For 2010, the average Murder Rate of Death Penalty States was 4.6, while the average Murder Rate of States without the Death Penalty was 2.9

For 2009, the average Murder Rate of Death Penalty States was 4.9, while the average Murder Rate of States without the Death Penalty was 2.8
Throwing stones in glass houses Kath.

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Post by clubgop » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:42 am

Mexico will pay for the wall.
You should love this one, it's semantics, like getting something for free.
He didn't say Mexico will be semantically paying for the wall. (That doesn't mean anything, btw.) He claimed Mexico will pay for it. What he meant was Americans will pay for the wall through higher costs of goods from Mexico. Lie.
Some cards must be hepd to the vest but there are a few things President could do without congress that would make Mexico pay. Increase the fee on remittances, stroke of a pen.
Congress would have to pass an import tax but it look like they are willing to do.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/o ... story.html

Its going to take time, stop lying.

Facing historic delay in getting nominees approved.
Don't know yet, still waiting on confirmations, could be.
He didn't say "I will face historic delay." He claimed it was a fact at that point. He wasn't predicting the future. It's nonsense and you know it.
Actually no I don't. In fact it is a lie. Most Presidents already had most of thier cabinet put through it's a fact. An Education Sec. in fact no nominee ever required the vote of the VP to break the tie in the Senate. So stop lying, Kath.

Oh and the US win the World Baseball Classic, so Trump has to get credit.

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Post by K@th » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:46 am

PartyOf5 wrote:
Throwing stones in glass houses Kath.
What was that nonsense you posted? Clearly nothing to do with murder rates and their supposedly being at record highs. From your own source...

Murder rates are at historic lows. Look at the pretty graph - see how it goes down in more current years? That means the murder rate is going down.

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Post by K@th » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:56 am

clubgop wrote:
Actually no I don't. In fact it is a lie. Most Presidents already had most of thier cabinet put through it's a fact. An Education Sec. in fact no nominee ever required the vote of the VP to break the tie in the Senate. So stop lying, Kath.
Obama's cabinet was fully in place on April 28. You have no proof that Trump's will take longer than that. Most presidents got their cabinet approved by mid-late March. Trump made that comment over a month ago, when it was not just nonsense, it was complete bullshit. He claimed most presidents had their cabinet filled by then.

Another demonstrably false lie by Trump. You literally cannot believe a word he says without fact checking it.
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Post by clubgop » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:00 am

Kath wrote:
clubgop wrote:
Actually no I don't. In fact it is a lie. Most Presidents already had most of thier cabinet put through it's a fact. An Education Sec. in fact no nominee ever required the vote of the VP to break the tie in the Senate. So stop lying, Kath.
Obama's cabinet was fully in place on April 28. You have no proof that Trump's will take longer than that. Most presidents got their cabinet approved by mid-late March. Trump made that comment over a month ago, when it was not just nonsense, it was complete bullshit. He claimed most presidents had their cabinet filled by then.

Another demonstrably false lie by Trump. You literally cannot believe a word he says without fact checking it.
Fully in place is not meaningfull it is the rate or at time of tweet. At that time he had like 2 Cabinet nominees in everyone else is being held up. That is a delay. That is the truth. It doesnt matter if they hurry up and approve the rest after the time. It was true at the time. If have a flight set to depart at 5 but doesn't take off till 530 but the pilot makes up the difference in the air. I am not lying about the delay. Stop, lying Kath.

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Post by K@th » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:05 am

clubgop wrote:
Fully in place is not meaningfull it is the rate or at time of tweet. .
Really? Damn, you guys are just making it a little too easy.

Here's the tweet on Feb 7.

It is a disgrace that my full Cabinet is still not in place, the longest such delay in the history of our country. Obstruction by Democrats!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)

No recent presidents have had their full cabinet in place by Feb 7. Mid March is the earliest. Quit taking words out of what he says to make it sound like what you wish he said.
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Post by clubgop » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:06 am

Kath wrote:
PartyOf5 wrote:
Throwing stones in glass houses Kath.
What was that nonsense you posted? Clearly nothing to do with murder rates and their supposedly being at record highs. From your own source...

Murder rates are at historic lows. Look at the pretty graph - see how it goes down in more current years? That means the murder rate is going down.

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Focus on the end of that chart there is an uptick in the Obama years. So no hostoric lows, stop lying Kath.

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Post by K@th » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:09 am

clubgop wrote:

Focus on the end of that chart there is an uptick in the Obama years. So no hostoric lows, stop lying Kath.
You're grasping at straws that aren't even there.

Trump claimed the murder rate was at historic highs for the last 47 years. Please point to the chart where the record high is. Is it this year? No? Is it near this year? No. Is the record high anywhere close to today? No.

Then it's a lie.

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Post by clubgop » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:10 am

Kath wrote:
clubgop wrote:
Fully in place is not meaningfull it is the rate or at time of tweet. .
Really? Damn, you guys are just making it a little too easy.

Here's the tweet on Feb 7.

It is a disgrace that my full Cabinet is still not in place, the longest such delay in the history of our country. Obstruction by Democrats!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)

No recent presidents have had their full cabinet in place by Feb 7. Mid March is the earliest. Quit taking words out of what he says to make it sound like what you wish he said.
Semantic drivel. "You are under surveillance by the Obama Administration but not "wiretapped" therefore you lied." Childish, stop lying, Kath