How's that Obamacare Repeal Working Out For You?

[apeman]

Kling:

The implicit standard in analysis of the health insurance system is that every consumer must have government-selected coverage. But why? This chosen paradigm doesn’t take into consideration the most forceful motivation of human behavior, namely, whether a large expenditure of limited resources is in one’s economic interest. This standard of “universal coverage” is as artificial as the government’s bloated health care costs.

This is the debate that the Congressional Republicans are ducking. As a result, the Overton Window has moved to the point where Obamacare will not be replaced until the Democrats replace it with full-on single payer.

health care is 1/6 of our economy, but nobody wants to spend 1/6 of their income on it.

[Martin Hash]

That's a 2-part problem: why is it so high, and the 1% currently receive 1/4 of the GNP.

[The Conservative]

Kling:

The implicit standard in analysis of the health insurance system is that every consumer must have government-selected coverage. But why? This chosen paradigm doesn’t take into consideration the most forceful motivation of human behavior, namely, whether a large expenditure of limited resources is in one’s economic interest. This standard of “universal coverage” is as artificial as the government’s bloated health care costs.

This is the debate that the Congressional Republicans are ducking. As a result, the Overton Window has moved to the point where Obamacare will not be replaced until the Democrats replace it with full-on single payer.

health care is 1/6 of our economy, but nobody wants to spend 1/6 of their income on it.

We do... where do you think they get the money?

[PartyOf5]

Medicare is for the elderly. Medicaid is for the poor and otherwise uninsured. I think what people have been discussing on the last page was Medicaid, not Medicare.

[Speaker to Animals]

Medicare is for the elderly. Medicaid is for the poor and otherwise uninsured. I think what people have been discussing on the last page was Medicaid, not Medicare.

No. I was discussing Medicare. Medicaid is terrible.

[Martin Hash]

Medicare. Medicaid is State-based and often involves insurance.

[PartyOf5]

At this point I think we are screwed no matter which party comes up with a plan. The real costs of healthcare are not being addressed, and won't be. Politicians are concerned with getting elected, not taking on true waste and fraud. We are long part the point where our government is capable of coming with solutions that are best for the people of this country. Every issue is a game to secure power and gain influence. Obamacare will fail the people, Ryancare will fail the people, any other plan will fail the people because none of them are meant to do what's best for the people.

[TheReal_ND]

I miss not having Obamacare.

[The Conservative]

RomneyCare worked... and there was a reason. Perhaps states need to learn from that instead of demanding the government to solving their problems, they fix their own?

[Speaker to Animals]

Medicare is the best way to reign in the costs that I know of. It already does this.

The main problem is that doctors are beginning to refuse Medicare patients because they know they make more money dealing only with health insurance companies.

The biggest problem we have has always been medical providers driving up costs. This includes regional monopolies where networks of doctors get gobbled up into single companies and hospital groups.

There needs to be some anti-trust action going on at the local level (that's exactly what it is since you can't just drive to the next city to treat your medical emergency). The government also should just revoke patents for drugs when a drug company abuses that privilege by driving prices up through the roof.