The Left Does not Reason

[clubgop]

Sure it is Jew.

Where is the switch? When did it occur? Dude here says 18fucking70 that doesnt cover for the New Deal, the great society, jim crow, segregation, and civil rights legislation. The only proof you and your doughy supporter has is some argument about vexillolgy.

[C-Mag]

Yeah. I really hate this "Dems are the real racists" argument. I call it DR3. Now they are doing the same thing calling anarchists and communists fascists. The history is interesting regarding the dem/rep switch but it doesn't work like a shield for republicans who are always, always trying, oh so hard to not be the real racists (even though things like border control are implicitly racist if not at the least culturally favoring.) It's pretty fucking weak. Democrats don't give a fuck dude.

The Dems have never owned up to their racist history and spend far too much time projecting it on to people they see as political rivals. What's worse is they speak of their racist ancestors as great heroes and obfuscate the party and the party icons role in racist policy. I will always hold a grudge against the party until it owns up to that past and quits projecting it on to others.

The GOP tend to be soft racists that have been ambivalent to minorities. They aren't all stars, but the GOP doesn't have the crimes attached to them like the Dems.

[clubgop]

So your argument is policy based not personnel based ?

I was just outlining how the Republicans went from big gov to small gov, I'm not trying to argue policy verse personnel. I don't even think those are mutually exclusive.

When I think about it, it''s not surprising that the South, which was defeated by the Federal government, would always be represented by the party of small government. In any case, I only claim that it is regional culture that defines the parties which control (or rather caters to) them, not the other way around. It's plain to see that the spirit of the 1860s Democrats is alive and well in the Southern Republicans of today.

Just to put a point on it, if the Democrat party is the same as then, why don't those modern confederate flag wavers vote Democrat so that the South will rise again? Why do they look to the Republican party for their leadership, the ones you claim destroyed their way of life?

Good response, I will get back to you tomorrow.

No it is not, it is bullshit. If the South was so small government why did the support the New Deal or the Great Society even today most southern republicans are the big government republicans. This is utter shit.

[TheReal_ND]

The switch happened dude. At one point of time the south was represented by democrats and after the civil war it was the other way around. The dude you are contesting gave some good reasons. You can't fucking claim to be a republican and the savior of the southern people dude.

[jbird4049]

What the fuck are you on about? There was no switch.

Except in the south you ignorant fuck.

Except not you ignorant fuck. Its a myth.

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How is that a myth? Aside from everything else, the Solid South was Democratic from the end of Reconstruction to the 1970s. For the last 40 years it's been Republican.

The most common explanation for that shift is the Democratic Party's support via legislation of the civil rights struggle. President Johnson is quoted as saying after the Civil Rights legislation "we've lost the South for a generation." This was followed by President Nixon's Southern Strategy to get Southerns to vote Republican. Unfortunately by not only advocating law and order, but also racism. It worked.

Aside from saying repeatedly that it all a myth, and insulting people, you have not offered any explanation, nevermind evidence.

[clubgop]

The switch happened dude. At one point of time the south was represented by democrats and after the civil war it was the other way around. The dude you are contesting gave some good reasons. You can't fucking claim to be a republican and the savior of the southern people dude.

When? What are you talking about? Since when is the 1980s and 1990s "after the civil war" I mean WTF? He is full of shit, he is lying, what he is saying didnt happen. As for claiming to be a republican and a savior, no shit. Considering republicans believe in a higher power to claim to be a savior would be blasphemy. It is Democrats that worship at the altar of big government. They want to be the saviors by acting like Santa Claus and treating DC as if it is the North Pole. Dont be one of thier dumb little reindeer. Playing thier stupid reindeer games.

[C-Mag]

The switch happened dude. At one point of time the south was represented by democrats and after the civil war it was the other way around. The dude you are contesting gave some good reasons. You can't fucking claim to be a republican and the savior of the southern people dude.

It's not as simple as people want to make it.

The Dems held the south through FDR in 44.
In 48 many in the south started looking for a different party, Florida went GOP, that continued through 68
there were several 3rd parties that gained a lot of attention over that 20 year span
Then in 72 Nixon won in a landslide, pretty much the whole county, over 500 electoral votes
In 76 the south went back to the Dems
in 80 and 84 Reagan won landslides again, probably more a view of how bad the Dems were
in 92 and 96 the Dems and GOP split the south
W won the south in 00 and 04
The south has not been as nearly monolithic in voting as it is portrayed

People will make arguments about this Dixiecrat switch, but that is a myth

Check out the red blue maps of all those elections

[TheReal_ND]

Considering republicans believe in a higher power to claim to be a savior would be blasphemy. It is Democrats that worship at the altar of big government. They want to be the saviors by acting like Santa Claus

You're showing your colors jew. Some of us want to take care of our people my man.

[clubgop]

This was followed by President Nixon's Southern Strategy to get Southerns to vote Republican. Unfortunately by not only advocating law and order, but also racism. It worked.

It didnt happen it is a myth and it didnt work.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/m ... b.t-4.html

http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/ ... -majority/

[clubgop]

Considering republicans believe in a higher power to claim to be a savior would be blasphemy. It is Democrats that worship at the altar of big government. They want to be the saviors by acting like Santa Claus

You're showing your colors jew. Some of us want to take care of our people my man.

Your showing yours. Fuck your welfare state.