Gesture Bombing is such a whiffle ball that it doesn't do any real damage to Assad, and so the Russian interests are not really threatened, so the Russians don't really care that much.GrumpyCatFace wrote: someone on here will still be typing about 5th dimensional basket weaving when the missiles are in the air.
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GrumpyCatFace wrote: someone on here will still be typing about 5th dimensional basket weaving when the missiles are in the air.
Just to preempt that a little, here's my post for right when the balloon goes up:
WOOOOOOOO!!!! You are going to have a bad time, city people. LMFAO
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All the Russians really care about is their naval dock in the eastern Med to have a foothold on the south end of the Bosporus, with a client in Damascus who will ensure access to it for them, whether that be Assad or somebody else, so long as America is not actively impeding that to any significant degree, it's not a red line for the Russians.
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This is just the beginning. Every April we will celebrate holohox remembering day by bombing an empty building in bfe while our elected leader sends strange semi-coherent tweets at Russia, and maybe China.
America is going to be a whole nother level of great.
America is going to be a whole nother level of great.
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I... Don't even know what to say about that.TheReal_ND wrote:This is just the beginning. Every April we will celebrate holohox remembering day by bombing an empty building in bfe while our elected leader sends strange semi-coherent tweets at Russia, and maybe China.
America is going to be a whole nother level of great.
Why are all the Gods such vicious cunts? Where's the God of tits and wine?
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I don't know.Speaker to Animals wrote:Honestly, there is another way to look at this in which both Trump and Russia come out ahead.
All these fake chemical weapons attacks are fucking over for all intents and purposes. If AQ's "white helmets" decide to fake another chemical attack, people are going to be like, how's that even possible when NATO just destroyed all of Assad's chemical weapons??
Next time the deep state wants to pretend like Assad did this to divert attention from something in domestic politics or justify fucking up the situation in Syria even more, Russia is going to be like, you said you were going to destroy all these stockpiles, and we stepped aside to let you do it, and now you are saying they are still doing it even though you destroyed all their alleged chemical weapons?
Personally, I think the deep state overplayed their hand on this one. I don't believe Assad was responsible for any of these alleged attacks, and some of them I am rather certain are staged, while at least one was obviously a conventional air strike on a terrorist munitions depot that contained chemical weapons that were then dispersed into the surrounding community. Now they have no good justification to do any of this shit again.
I mean.. maybe Trump just found an out from the deep state pressuring him to do this stupid shit again without possibly creating the grounds for hostilities with Russia or Iran.
Additionally, Trump can respond to future pleas that he send troops back into Syria or fuck with Assad again with the assurance that we already destroyed the Syrian chemical weapons stockpiles and the new "attacks" look to be fake.
Obama and Kerry were supposed to have removed all the chems years ago, yet here we are still dealing with more.
They can probably keep this annual chem attack thing going for a few more years.
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And you'll still be going on about the eminent economic collapse that's right around the corner, really, it's gonna happen this time...GrumpyCatFace wrote: someone on here will still be typing about 5th dimensional basket weaving when the missiles are in the air.
the imminent one too
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Based on the claimed effects, the agent ostensibly used in the Syrian chemical weapons attack was chlorine, which is cheap, easy, and readily accessible by exponential means, the idea that striking "chemical weapons facilities" would somehow interdict the use of chlorine is laughable.
You might need a chemical weapons dedicated facility to manufacturer sophisticated agents like VX or VR, but chlorine you can get at the hardware store.
To wit, the chemical weapons the Assadists are apparently using; you could make them, in your garage.
B-1 bomber strike to ostensibly interdict that? Wag the dog and pony show to the absurd.
The Assadists are attacking defenseless civilians, they don't need sophisticated weapons and associated infrastructure, it's barrel bombs and chlorine, basically terrorism, and so below the threshold of conventional force effects for interdiction.
You might need a chemical weapons dedicated facility to manufacturer sophisticated agents like VX or VR, but chlorine you can get at the hardware store.
To wit, the chemical weapons the Assadists are apparently using; you could make them, in your garage.
B-1 bomber strike to ostensibly interdict that? Wag the dog and pony show to the absurd.
The Assadists are attacking defenseless civilians, they don't need sophisticated weapons and associated infrastructure, it's barrel bombs and chlorine, basically terrorism, and so below the threshold of conventional force effects for interdiction.
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Not to mention the tens of thousands killed in old fashioned arty strikes.Smitty-48 wrote:Based on the claimed effects, the agent ostensibly used in the Syrian chemical weapons attack was chlorine, which is cheap, easy, and readily accessible by exponential means, the idea that striking "chemical weapons facilities" would somehow interdict the use of chlorine is laughable.
You might need a chemical weapons dedicated facility to manufacturer sophisticated agents like VX or VR, but chlorine you can get at the hardware store.
To wit, the chemical weapons the Assadists are apparently using; you could make them, in your garage.
B-1 bomber strike to ostensibly interdict that? Wag the dog and pony show to the absurd.
The Assadists are attacking defenseless civilians, they don't need sophisticated weapons and associated infrastructure, it's barrel bombs and chlorine, basically terrorism, and so below the threshold of conventional force effects for interdiction.
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Dumb slut partied too hard and woke up in a weird house. Ran out the door, weeping for her failed life choices, concerned townsfolk notes her appearance and alerted the fuzz.
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The Russians have basically achieved their objectives here, all they have to do is park themselves next to things that really matter to the Assad regime, and America wont strike, America will strike fake targets because they have to avoid hitting the Russians, Mission Accomplished for Mr. Ivan.
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