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Re: North Korea News

Post by Zlaxer » Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:58 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
apeman wrote:
South Korea Protesters Clash With Police Over Deployment Of US THAAD Missiles
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-0 ... -batteries

why on earth would South Koreans protest the installation of defensive systems?

someone please fill me in here.
Meet the South Korean Left; anti-American foreign policy, peacenik quasi-commie sympathizing fatalists who believe that any standing up to the North Koreans or building up defenses against them is a reckless provocation and that rather they should negotiate with Pyongyang in the face of nuclear blackmail.

This is why Pyongyang knows; if they can just get the Americans out of the way, they can win the Korean War, by imposing their will via the South Korean Left. With nuclear blackmail, they don't have to invade with tanks, the South Korean Left will capitulate to their terms in the face of escalation dominance effectively undeterred, by a South Korea no longer actually willing to go to war.
If the South Koreans don't have the ballz to stand up for themselves, then they deserve what happens to them.

But, I think the South Koreans will do something.....if not them, then Japan for sure.

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Re: North Korea News

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:01 pm

Zlaxer wrote:
But, I think the South Koreans will do something.....if not them, then Japan for sure.
Which would actually incite the North Koreans to launch against the CONUS, so, the isolationists would not save you from Redwings over the CONUS, they would in fact open the way for even more crisis instability in the Northwest Pacific, throwing even more gasoline on that nuclear fire.

Just another reason why allowing the North Koreans to reach the threshold of Redwings over the CONUS on a hair trigger, is a grave mistake, and all the more reason to fight the war now, before they ever get there, because once they get there, there will be nowhere for you to run then.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:10 pm

If South Korea or Japan does something, then it's the same as if we did it. So, if they really are going to do it, we are better off doing it ourselves.

All of you better consider this. If this administration doesn't destroy this nuclear weapons program before they are able to launch ICBMs with those fusion bombs at CONUS, then he deserves to be sent back to New York where he came from. Hell, he'd deserve impeachment.

If nothing gets done, ALL of you will regret the day you thought it was a great idea to let North Korea develop this kind of technology.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:16 pm

There's a structurally operational reason why the North Koreans are nothing like the Soviets/Russians nor Chinese, when they to get to Redwings over the CONUS, they will have the Operation Redwing Bombs on the ICBM's, and those ICBM's will dispersed and concealed against counterforce, but they won't have all the rest of the strategic infrastructure the Russians and Chinese have, early warning, reliable survival second strike etcetera, and no strategic depth, and they won't have distributed command and control, control will be kept very close to the vest.

What this will mean, is that they will have to be wound up to the brink, extreme hair trigger alert, at all times, and, they will have those strategic weapons targeted at their primary strategic threat, which is on the CONUS, so any jarring of their hair trigger whatsoever, or any sort of false warning, will incite a launch against the CONUS by default.

They'll have zero margin for error, they'll be inherently paranoid about an American counterforce, and so they will be a ticking nuclear time bomb, which you will be in a hair trigger standoff with, until such time as they get jarred slightly and their nuclear mercury switch gets thrown in a panic.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:21 pm

The choice is between Seoul getting hit and CONUS getting shut down with an EMP (or a few American cities getting hit). Lots of Americans feel like it would be terrible if Seoul suffers from North Korean retaliation, so they appease the North Koreans long enough for the new blackmail target to become America.

Then we risk those little fuckers launching over pretty much anything, and they don't have jack shit to break over there. What exactly do we bomb in a counterstrike *after* they launch the fucking missiles? There's nothing of value there except the Goddamned missiles.

There's not fucking deterrent with a pygmy nation that doesn't even have a viable electric grid.
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Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:22 pm

This is exactly what the Chinese are doing to Hong Kong by the way, slowly but surely, having got the British and their hydrogen bombs out of the way.
Wait what? Hong Kong had nukes?

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Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:26 pm

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This is exactly what the Chinese are doing to Hong Kong by the way, slowly but surely, having got the British and their hydrogen bombs out of the way.
Wait what? Hong Kong had nukes?
Hong Kong was under the British nuclear deterrent umbrella, a Chinese attack on Hong Kong could have incited World War Three via the British Empire. The British wouldn't likely have used their SLBM's short of extremis, but the British had tactical and operational theater thermonuclear weapons as well.

Most likely scenario would be a limited British tactical nuclear strike to force an operational pause, failing that, theater nuclear strike to cripple the PLA and force them to withdraw, backed up by the British strategic nuclear deterrent on the SSBN's.

If that didn't stop the Chinese; World War Three. Although, likely would have stopped them tbh, as the Chinese were not in the same weight class as the Soviets, strategically, the British actually had the Chinese outgunned by a significant margin, the Chinese nuclear deterrent was quite modest, and in fact still is, mind you, they've started to ramp it up of late.
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Post by Zlaxer » Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:50 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:The choice is between Seoul getting hit and CONUS getting shut down with an EMP (or a few American cities getting hit). Lots of Americans feel like it would be terrible if Seoul suffers from North Korean retaliation, so they appease the North Koreans long enough for the new blackmail target to become America.

Then we risk those little fuckers launching over pretty much anything, and they don't have jack shit to break over there. What exactly do we bomb in a counterstrike *after* they launch the fucking missiles? There's nothing of value there except the Goddamned missiles.

There's not fucking deterrent with a pygmy nation that doesn't even have a viable electric grid.

EMBARGO THE PRC NOW!

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Re: North Korea News

Post by StCapps » Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:30 am

Zlaxer wrote:EMBARGO THE PRC NOW!
That solves nothing.
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Re: North Korea News

Post by Zlaxer » Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:02 am

StCapps wrote:
Zlaxer wrote:EMBARGO THE PRC NOW!
That solves nothing.
Yeah? I think it does.

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