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Re: North Korea News

Post by The Conservative » Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:52 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
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de officiis wrote:The milk of human kindnesss is the skim variety around here, obviously.
Free Market means "fuck you pay me", in TCs mind.
Free market means that the market deems what is worth while or not, but if you get a service from me, then you better damn well pay me. I don't do shit for free.
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Re: North Korea News

Post by de officiis » Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:53 am

The Conservative wrote:
de officiis wrote:The milk of human kindnesss is the skim variety around here, obviously.
That's right... that's why they call it charity.
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Re: North Korea News

Post by The Conservative » Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:59 am

de officiis wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
de officiis wrote:The milk of human kindnesss is the skim variety around here, obviously.
That's right... that's why they call it charity.

Ahh, that's not the free market though, that is something entirely different. And Charity in a free market is figured into the bottom dollar if you give several million to a group as a donation, or give time to it, instead of doing your job, you can allocate that to taxes at the end of the year as an expenditure.
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Re: North Korea News

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:01 pm

SilverEagle wrote:Smitty......If you were the POTUS, how would you play out this N.K. issue?
Bah. They're not going to do anything anyways, if the Grumpy doctrine doesn't prevail, the Capps doctrine will.

You're on the inexorable path to nuclear crisis instability in the Northwest Pacific, so I might as well just turn it over to the Preppers at this juncture, it's probably gonna take awhile to actually get it done, so if you're going to dig a bomb shelter, might as well start now.

Respirators, CBRN suits, iodide tabs, etcetera, ya'll know the drill, "duck and cover", whatevs.
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Re: North Korea News

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:28 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
SilverEagle wrote:Smitty......If you were the POTUS, how would you play out this N.K. issue?
Bah. They're not going to do anything anyways, if the Grumpy doctrine doesn't prevail, the Capps doctrine will.

You're on the inexorable path to nuclear crisis instability in the Northwest Pacific, so I might as well just turn it over to the Preppers at this juncture, it's probably gonna take awhile to actually get it done, so if you're going to dig a bomb shelter, might as well start now.

Respirators, CBRN suits, iodide tabs, etcetera, ya'll know the drill, "duck and cover", whatevs.
Not really worth preserving the family through a nuclear wasteland, only to watch them starve to death...

If the fallout doesn't hit too hard here, we can survive most other disasters. Radiation is the Big Problem that's really not worth even dealing with. Just hang it up, because you're waiting to die anyway at that point.
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Re: North Korea News

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:33 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:Not really worth preserving the family through a nuclear wasteland, only to watch them starve to death...

If the fallout doesn't hit too hard here, we can survive most other disasters. Radiation is the Big Problem that's really not worth even dealing with. Just hang it up, because you're waiting to die anyway at that point.
Well, that's up to you, but the North Koreans won't be able to completely destroy the CONUS, there would be a counterforce attempt right at the breach, and BMD would shoot at least a couple down, so it's not going to be the end of the world, the sun will come up the next day, the CONUS will still be here, millions will be dead and/or dying, but it's not going to be all encompassing, so absent being within the immediate effects radius of the bomb, it will be survivable.

As for fallout, it will cut swathes downrange from the strikes, but if you're not actually in that kill zone, you'd still be good to go. And as I said before, there would be IDP's, Internally Displaced Persons, people would have to move out of the kill zones and into refugee camps in the safe areas.

North Korea is a Preppers wet dream, a devastating nuclear exchange, but a survivable one, it'll just be luck of the draw who gets the jackpot and who doesn't.

Suffice to say tho, the North Koreans will not pay a price commensurate to the damage they will inflict, so for all intents and purposes, they will get away with it. Countervalue is not a realistic option, that's just rhetorical, so it will be survivable on their end as well.

They'll use their strategic weapons against the CONUS, they'll have their tactical weapons dispersed in reserve, and they will just hunker down, same as they always do, America will get the worst of it, contrary to American delusions of massive retaliation options, the Korean Peninsula will go comparitively unscathed.

At which point, they will impose their will on the South Koreans in some sort of shotgun confederation, with the DPRK as the dominant partner, and then they will have won the Korean War. America will be crippled, PACOM will cease to exist, and then the Chinese will move in to fill the power vacuum.

America's hubris, that she could never lose a war without bringing the whole world down with, her undoing. The delusion that any nuclear war is an extinction event by default, and thus unthinkable, inciting you to not think about how you fight and win one, resulting in you getting your asses kicked, when the other guy fights and wins it.
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Re: North Korea News

Post by apeman » Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:12 pm

South Korea Protesters Clash With Police Over Deployment Of US THAAD Missiles
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-0 ... -batteries

why on earth would South Koreans protest the installation of defensive systems?

someone please fill me in here.

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Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:18 pm

Oh. Believe it or not, there are remnants of a commie movement. They are kind of big time liberals now and very anti American.

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:24 pm

Nukedog wrote:Oh. Believe it or not, there are remnants of a commie movement. They are kind of big time liberals now and very anti American.

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At least they wear face masks to minimize the spread of their chicken flu virus.

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Re: North Korea News

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:09 pm

apeman wrote:
South Korea Protesters Clash With Police Over Deployment Of US THAAD Missiles
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-0 ... -batteries

why on earth would South Koreans protest the installation of defensive systems?

someone please fill me in here.
Meet the South Korean Left; anti-American foreign policy, peacenik quasi-commie sympathizing fatalists who believe that any standing up to the North Koreans or building up defenses against them is a reckless provocation and that rather they should negotiate with Pyongyang in the face of nuclear blackmail.

This is why Pyongyang knows; if they can just get the Americans out of the way, they can win the Korean War, by imposing their will via the South Korean Left. With nuclear blackmail, they don't have to invade with tanks, the South Korean Left will capitulate to their terms in the face of escalation dominance effectively undeterred, by a South Korea no longer actually willing to go to war.

The North Korean strategic objective end state is the Confederation, formally remaining two entities, but subvervient to Pongyang's escalation dominance, and thereby the North Koreans do not have to seize the South in a blitzkrieg, they would just take over, slowly but surely, by osmosis.

The South Korean Right would attempt to resist, but the South Korean Left would repress them in order to appease Pyongyang, and once you make a deal with that Devil, you're done for, because it just keeps coming back for more.

Eventually it becomes like the reunificaton of Germany, except if the East Germans won and the West Germans were forced to capitulate to their terms.

This is exactly what the Chinese are doing to Hong Kong by the way, slowly but surely, having got the British and their hydrogen bombs out of the way.
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