Merican Nazi: An Origin story

[clubgop]

But you see, Allende brought Pincohet down upon his own head, it was Allende who empowered Pinochet, Allende thought that Pinochet was going to be his man, that Pinochet was going to crack the whip for Allende, so it was Allende in the end, who backed that horse, and if the horse bucked the rider, so be it, Allende brought himself down in the end.

I don't know if he had much of a choice Pinochet was the next in line. Do you shake up the duty roster and hope it all goes your way or do you make the safe play and go with the next man up.

Point being, there's no reason to shed any tears for the Allendeists, as they intended to sic Pinochet on their opponents, they were just as thuggish, they simply got beat at their own game.

It wasn't as if a communist backed take over of Chile by the trade unionists was universally supported, and while Allende may have been a fop, it wasn't as if the guys under him were not a goon squad, it's just a question of which goons are going to be running things, Yuri Andropov's goons, or NATO's goons.

Somebodies were going to get chucked out of the helicopters, it was either going to be their somebodies or our somebodies, the Cold War was a war after all, c'est le guerre. We're talking 1973-1989 here, it was the very brink of nuclear armageddon, all day everyday, fifteen minutes notice to launch, fuck Allende & Co, if they side with the Iron Curtain, of course the Iron Lady would stand against that.

If Nixon can go to Beijing, Maggie can go to Santiago, whatever, just win, baby.

No argument with any of that there. Ronnie and Maggie forever as far as I am concerned.

[Smitty-48]

No argument with any of that there. Ronnie and Maggie forever as far as I am concerned.

Well, don't get me wrong, I love the Gipper, whatever quarrels he may have had with congress of the United States, he always did right by the Tories of Canada, and I served his SACEUR proudly on the trace.

[clubgop]

She did however sell arms and riot control vehicles to make it easier for Pinochet to quell rebellion.

Wears Che shirt but castigated Pinochet. Backwards 5 year old indeed.

Stop quoting me. I have no interest in talking to you.

Do I chalk this up to being an asshole or do I act like a self important leftist and say I am a "critical journalist" and make it look like they are against press freedoms? WWTLLLTTCFMD?

[clubgop]

No argument with any of that there. Ronnie and Maggie forever as far as I am concerned.

Well, don't get me wrong, I love the Gipper, whatever quarrels he may have had with congress of the United States, he always did right by the Tories of Canada, and I served his SACEUR proudly on the trace.

Yeah I know. Just remember a disagreement with Congress does not a Benedict Arnold make.

[Smitty-48]

No argument with any of that there. Ronnie and Maggie forever as far as I am concerned.

Well, don't get me wrong, I love the Gipper, whatever quarrels he may have had with congress of the United States, he always did right by the Tories of Canada, and I served his SACEUR proudly on the trace.

Yeah I know. Just remember a disagreement with Congress does not a Benedict Arnold make.

Was the United States constitution which said it, not I, Benedict Arnold mind you, is no criminal where I come from, United Empire Loyalist, Benedict Arnold is more than welcome here.

A Loyalist and a Royalist doesn't give a fig about the United States Congress, but doing an end run around them to sell weapons to a sworn enemy of the United States, is treason against the republic, by definition, that being said, not my republic, not my problem.

[clubgop]

Well, don't get me wrong, I love the Gipper, whatever quarrels he may have had with congress of the United States, he always did right by the Tories of Canada, and I served his SACEUR proudly on the trace.

Yeah I know. Just remember a disagreement with Congress does not a Benedict Arnold make.

Was the United States Constitution which said it, not I, but Benedict Arnold, is no criminal where I come from, United Empire Loyalist of Upper Canada, Benedict Arnold is more than welcome here.

Well no they treated him quite harshly until his death. And the Constitution is clear about this.

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

The President can not possibly levy war against his own country, and we have not had an enemy since World war II. Also no two witnesses or confession. Benedict Arnold meets all those requirements. No one else. Not even the Rosenbergs were tried as such. Nor that American Taliban dude.

[Fife]

Good post. There is a lot (a LOT) of disinformation about the IRL crime of treason that blows down the alley like scrap paper.

[Smitty-48]

Pffft, typical Americans, treason if it's the other team, but if it's my team, not treason, it's no wonder America is as corrupt as a rotten apple.

There was no war declared against the Soviet Union, selling them arms without the rule of law would have been treasonous as much as selling arms to the Iranian Mullah's was.

All you Americans do is make excuses for your ideological fellow travelers, while indicting your ideological opponents for every crime in the book, who knew?

[clubgop]

Good post. There is a lot (a LOT) of disinformation about the IRL crime of treason that blows down the alley like scrap paper.

Plenty of shit to get a muthfucker on, no need to politicize treason.

[Smitty-48]

He violated the separation of powers, to acquire off the book funds, by selling weapons to the enemy, in order to conduct military actions in contravention of the law. Treason by any other name, against the republic at the very least, but of course, partisan hackery takes precedence over the republic, hence why its such a dumpster fire.