North Korea News

[The Conservative]

If North Korea ceases to exist, likely the end result will be a much stronger "South" Korea than now.

And China basically will have the US forces on their border at the Yalu river. The US didn't withdraw from Germany, and hell not will withdraw from Korea if North Korea is taken over by South Korea.

Enough reasons for China to tolerate the obscure oddity like North Korea. Besides, there's no other country that China has saved from total destruction.

China would tolerate a unified Korea with a US presence if it meant regional stability...

[Speaker to Animals]

If North Korea ceases to exist, likely the end result will be a much stronger "South" Korea than now.

And China basically will have the US forces on their border at the Yalu river. The US didn't withdraw from Germany, and hell not will withdraw from Korea if North Korea is taken over by South Korea.

Enough reasons for China to tolerate the obscure oddity like North Korea. Besides, there's no other country that China has saved from total destruction.

China would tolerate a unified Korea with a US presence if it meant regional stability...

LMFAO, no they won't.

[Smitty-48]

It wouldn't be more stable with the US right up against the Yalu, that would be destabilizing, the buffer zone is still a stabilizer, even if it is full of cray-cray between the Yalu and the DMZ, if the US and China come eye to eye point blank, that would be far more tense, and more pressure is inherently less stable.

[StCapps]

It wouldn't be more stable with the US right up against the Yalu, that would be destabilizing, the buffer zone is still a stabilizer, even if it is full of cray-cray between the Yalu and the DMZ, if the US and China come eye to eye point blank, that would be far more tense, and more pressure is inherently less stable.

A unified Korea allied with the US, yeah China's not a big fan of that plan for obvious reasons.

[ssu]

China would tolerate a unified Korea with a US presence if it meant regional stability...

The US might call that outcome "regional stability". China wouldn't. For it the change would be extremely destabilizing.

And guess what country would the Unified Korea, ex-South Korea, see then as it's major theoretical opponent?

Nope, it wouldn't be Russia.

[Smitty-48]

It wouldn't be more stable with the US right up against the Yalu, that would be destabilizing, the buffer zone is still a stabilizer, even if it is full of cray-cray between the Yalu and the DMZ, if the US and China come eye to eye point blank, that would be far more tense, and more pressure is inherently less stable.

A unified Korea allied with the US, yeah China's not a big fan of that plan for obvious reasons.

Prospective nuclear near peer adversary, right at the gates, with ballistic missile defense and first strike enablement, would force them to ramp up their deterrent, big time, both conventional and nuclear, and it would be point blank, so the slightest confrontation, for instance in the China Seas, suddenly becomes for all the marbles, with no room for error whatsoever, everything right at the brink all the time.

The United States would not react very well to having the Chinese after all, loaded for bear right accross the Rio Grande in Mexico, imagine the Red Scare that would cause.

[The Conservative]

It wouldn't be more stable with the US right up against the Yalu, that would be destabilizing, the buffer zone is still a stabilizer, even if it is full of cray-cray between the Yalu and the DMZ, if the US and China come eye to eye point blank, that would be far more tense, and more pressure is inherently less stable.

A unified Korea allied with the US, yeah China's not a big fan of that plan for obvious reasons.

Prospective nuclear near peer adversary, right at the gates, with ballistic missile defense and first strike enablement, would force them to ramp up their deterrent, big time, both conventional and nuclear, and it would be point blank, so the slightest confrontation, for instance in the China Seas, suddenly becomes for all the marbles, with no room for error whatsoever, everything right at the brink all the time.

The United States would not react very well to having the Chinese after all, loaded for bear right accross the Rio Grande in Mexico.

What people are missing I think is that if the US does do this, we probably would be looking at increased tensions possibly short terms, also a more stable entity under China not going off the hilt threatening the region with random nukes...

And honestly, I would rather have China at our southern border than Mexico...

[Speaker to Animals]

One way that unification might be possible is for the United States to agree to leave the penninsula altogether and let China and South Korea deal with unification. I doubt China will care about a unified Korea if Americans are not involved. Nor do the Koreans really like us there either.

If people want to improve relations with China, then show them some respect and let them deal with it. Offer them support. Offer to get the fuck out of the peninsula if exchange for peace.

[The Conservative]

One way that unification might be possible is for the United States to agree to leave the penninsula altogether and let China and South Korea deal with unification. I doubt China will care about a unified Korea if Americans are not involved. Nor do the Koreans really like us there either.

If people want to improve relations with China, then show them some respect and let them deal with it. Offer them support. Offer to get the fuck out of the peninsula if exchange for peace.

That is sort of the point, after the US helps the south clean house, they leave, the region deals with their own situations, etc... the US no longer is involved as it once was, and that is exactly as it should be.

[Speaker to Animals]

One way that unification might be possible is for the United States to agree to leave the penninsula altogether and let China and South Korea deal with unification. I doubt China will care about a unified Korea if Americans are not involved. Nor do the Koreans really like us there either.

If people want to improve relations with China, then show them some respect and let them deal with it. Offer them support. Offer to get the fuck out of the peninsula if exchange for peace.

That is sort of the point, after the US helps the south clean house, they leave, the region deals with their own situations, etc... the US no longer is involved as it once was, and that is exactly as it should be.

That's the opposite point you are making. US troops going across the DMZ risks WW3.

US brokering a deal with China to remove our forces from the peninsula in exchange for China replacing the government of North Korea is a complete separate issue.