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[Smitty-48]

Now we just need to find a way of getting PK Subban out of Nashville and back to the 6ix where he belongs.

[StCapps]

I told my dad drafting the Yank was the right call, but he's kind of hockey nationalist who lets that blind him sometimes. Now he see's the light, obvious draft pick was obvious, good thing they didn't fuck up and way overthink it.

Laine will be good, but we need to build from the centre out, building around a high scoring winger; been there, done that, didn't get anywhere.

Exactly sure-fire, blue-chip, first line franchise centers are absolute gold. If any of them are on the draft board, you can't take the winger, no matter how offensively skilled, or how many centers you already have. That's what I mean by overthinking it.

[StCapps]

Now we just need to find a way of getting PK Subban out of Nashville and back to the 6ix where he belongs.

That would be a coup. How would they even go about that without giving up pieces they would never part with? Nashville isn't about to trade him for a bag of pucks.

[Smitty-48]

Now we just need to find a way of getting PK Subban out of Nashville and back to the 6ix where he belongs.

That would be a coup. How would they even go about that without giving up pieces they would never part with? Nashville isn't about to trade him for a bag of pucks.

I think their window is actually closing, they have two number one D-men, Josi and Subban, very similar, except Subban costs $9 million a year, they're a budget team, if they go into a rebuild mode, throw anything at them except Matthews, Marner, and Rielly. Those are the only untouchables.

Throw a package with Nylander, Dermott, Nielsen, etc.

Subban has the no trade, if they go to move him, he's going to be wanting to come home, more than anybody, he loves the spotlight, it's tearing him up being stuck down in Nashville, he wants to be on the big stage in the 6ix, you know he does.

Number One D is the hardest thing to get, so except for Matthews, Marner, Rielly, I'd pull out all the stops.

[StCapps]

Now we just need to find a way of getting PK Subban out of Nashville and back to the 6ix where he belongs.

That would be a coup. How would they even go about that without giving up pieces they would never part with? Nashville isn't about to trade him for a bag of pucks.

I think their window is actually closing, they have two number one D-men, Josi and Subban, very similar, except Subban costs $9 million a year, they're a budget team, if they go into a rebuild mode, throw anything at them except Matthews, Marner, and Rielly. Those are the only untouchables.

Throw a package with Nylander, Dermott, Nielsen, etc.

Subban has the no trade, if they go to move him, he's going to be wanting to come home, more than anybody, he loves the spotlight, it's tearing him up being stuck down in Nashville, he wants to be on the big stage in the 6ix, you know he does.

I don't know man, something tells me Nashville is going to want one of the untouchables or they won't come to the table. If you catch them when they are desperate you might have a shot, but that's a tough sale without Matthews, Marner or Reilly.

[Smitty-48]

I don't know man, something tells me Nashville is going to want one of the untouchables or they won't come to the table. If you catch them when they are desperate you might have a shot, but that's a tough sale without Matthews, Marner or Reilly.

If they decide that they have to move Subban, it's not that long of a shot, he's got the no-trade now, he's not going to accept being dumped off to where they want him to go, he wants to come to the 6ix and have his vengeance on the Habs for dumping him.

It all comes down to things not going as planned with Subban in Nashville and their window closing, forcing a rebuild/salary dump, at which point, I think it's doable, they're not getting Matthews, Marner, or Rielly, but with the Subban no-trade, their options become very limited, at which point, the Leafs actually have a lot of top prospects to put into play. Nylander is the headliner, Dermott and Nielsen are the D replacements, 1st round pick of course, whatever, anything except the untouchables is on the table.

At some point, the Leafs will have to make a stab at a number one D-man, Subban is at the top of my list.

[StCapps]

If they decide that have to move Subban, it's not that long of a shot, he's got the no-trade now, he's not going to accept being dumped off to where they want him to go, he wants to come to the 6ix, and have his vengeance on the Habs for dumping him, it all comes down to things not going as planned with Subban in Nashville and the window closing, forcing a rebuild salary dump, at which point, I think it's doable, they're not getting Matthews, Marner, or Rielly, with the no trade, their options become very limited, at which point, the Leafs actually have a lot of top prospects to put into play. Nylander is the headliner, Dermott and Nielsen are the D replacements, 1st round pick of course.

At some point, the Leafs will have to make a stab at a number one D-man, Subban is at the top of my list.

Well if you catch Nashville when they are desperate as you say, it might be doable, but you can't give up a franchise defensemen for prospects, depth players and draft picks unless you are really desperate and the GM doesn't care about getting his ass fired. The stars kind of have to line up, and it's a long shot.

[Smitty-48]

Well if you catch Nashville when they are desperate as you say, it might be doable, but you can't give up a franchise defensemen for prospects, depth players and draft picks unless you are really desperate and the GM doesn't care about getting his ass fired. The stars kind of have to line up, and it's a long shot.

They get desperate when the window closes and they have $9 million a year dead money on a sinking budget team and the $9 million man wants to go home to the 6ix.

It's like the Leafs with Kessel, had to move the money, Kessel angled it with the no-trade so that Pittsburg was the only viable choice, then Pittsburg plays hardball.

If it was a typical Leafs management group, might not be doable, but Lou Lamoriello is not a typical GM, I think Lou could pull it off, in Lou we trust.

[StCapps]

If it was a typical Leafs management group, might not be doable, but Lou Lamoriello is not a typical GM, I think Lou could pull it off, in Lou we trust.

True but if Lamoriello, Shanahan and/or Babcock could be run out of town due to a complete lack of patience by the fan base and the media, then the Leafs ownership might just find a way to shoot themselves in the foot and cave to the pressure. If you guys start losing and Nashville starts winning there could easily be no deal to be had this year, and then the longer it takes for the Leafs to meet fan and media expectations the more dicey that situation gets despite the quality of the management group. That market does the franchise no favors, aside from financial security, but it otherwise hurts the quality of the team. Maybe if the Leafs moved they'd have more success when it comes to winning, not that this would ever happen or anything, nor do I want that to happen.

[Martin Hash]

I DID find this however.
Third Highest Viewship

Better read it now because it will probably be gone tomorrow.

p.s. That's FIFTH largest with a fucking boycott going on. Count the "100 Billion Women March" in the turnout, and Trump wins HAND'S DOWN!

Why will it be gone tomorrow? I'm not clear on the point you are making... All the article points out is that no matter how you slice & dice the facts & data, Trump had lower attendance than Obama.

The reason I'm asking is because you said, " lots of new hits come up from anti-Trump news organs with really negative slants on attendance. I DID find this however."

You found another article agreeing that attendance was lower. Lots of those around.

Trump had the biggest boycott of his inauguration ever, by far, and it was more attended than all the 2nd terms, and some of the 1st termers (since 1980). That's a "win" in my book. I counted 11 anti-Trump articles in a row, starting from the top, on my USA Today newsfeed. There wasn't one positive Trump article & he was just inaugurated. I couldn't Google up a positive Trump article. What the hell, my YouTube & podcast channel is full of them? What the hell's going on with Google. The MSM, anti-Trump narrative doesn't get us anywhere that I can figure out. WTF? Is the plan really to start a violent revolution? If so, I know which side is going to win. (Hint: the one with the guns.)