THE ERA OF TRUMP

[DrYouth]

Not because I like the orange asshole (I don’t), but because the effect of having a political outsider president in DC has only improved the health of our lazy, complacent, insular, self-serving government.

Has it though?

I can't say I've seen a lot of evidence that it has...

I also haven't seen any convincing evidence that it has made anything worse... so there's that.

There is a lot of crowing about the end-times... and a lot of crowing about redemption...

But little evidence of either.

[DBTrek]

Think about the people complaining about the turnover in Trumps administration- aren’t they the same assholes that were complaining about Washington insiders serving for too long before?

Think about the people complaining about the tariffs, the wall, the attempts to kill the ACA, etc - aren’t they the same assholes that complained the government only distracted the public with wedge issues and never actually did anything new, before Trump?

The simple fact is we have a lot of useless, complainy, assholes in this country. They’ll spend 30 years bitching about the status quo, but as soon as things change a little bit they immediately start bitching about how everything is going off the rails.

That’s what we’re witnessing here, complainy assholes pivoting on the nature of their complaints until such time as the status quo resumes and they can pivot back to their original complaints.

Fuck these people.

[MilSpecs]

How is a government dominated by inside players who cut the same deals with the same special interests year in and year out *not* a “succession of incompetents”?

They're a succession of thieves. Not the same thing as a succession of incompetents.

You don't seem to realize what actual chaos can lead to. There seems to be a general feeling on the MHF that Trump or someone like him will shake up the system and lead to something better, when the reality is that strongmen emerge from chaos and abolish freedom. You're going to get a Putin next.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Only if you consider allowing one non-politician to hold office in DC to be "destroying the village".

I'd question the cognitive abilities of anyone who seriously made that claim, though.

Given the near-unlimited power of the Executive though.. it's not as stupid as it sounds anymore.

Near unlimited?!

Have you paid attention to how many times Barry O and Trump got stopped from doing what they wanted?

17 year wars, drone strikes on foreign soil, indefinite “detention” of anyone without due process, trade and immigration policy - all unauthorized by congress. The only thing they’ve even slowed down was a Trillion-dollar boondoggle on the border.

We have a near-monarchy.

[DBTrek]

“Next is Putin”

That sounds like a sober, well informed, dispassionate analysis from a serious student of history, politics, and social evolution.

Thanks for the insight.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Think about the people complaining about the turnover in Trumps administration- aren’t they the same assholes that were complaining about Washington insiders serving for too long before?

Think about the people complaining about the tariffs, the wall, the attempts to kill the ACA, etc - aren’t they the same assholes that complained the government only distracted the public with wedge issues and never actually did anything new, before Trump?

The simple fact is we have a lot of useless, complainy, assholes in this country. They’ll spend 30 years bitching about the status quo, but as soon as things change a little bit they immediately start bitching about how everything is going off the rails.

That’s what we’re witnessing here, complainy assholes pivoting on the nature of their complaints until such time as the status quo resumes and they can pivot back to their original complaints.

Fuck these people.

The White House cabinet is not where the “swamp creatures” live. Those people are changed out every 4-8 years anyway. Hiring and firing the shit out of his personal staff is not “removing the insiders”.

But you keep waving the shit out of that flag, like a good boy. Don’t pay attention to what’s coming, we’re just traitors and malcontents.

[DBTrek]

You’re just a bunch of complaining know-nothings, and neither age nor experience seems to be able to remedy your ailment.

[Martin Hash]

You’re just a bunch of complaining know-nothings, and neither age nor experience seems to be able to remedy your ailment.

Another new member to MHF?

[DBTrek]

You’re just a bunch of complaining know-nothings, and neither age nor experience seems to be able to remedy your ailment.

Another new member to MHF?

The MHF - providing the answer to the question “If you lived in the most prosperous nation in human history, at a time of unparalleled technological advancement and enjoyed a standard of living undreamed of by previous generations - what could you possibly complain about?”

[MilSpecs]

“Next is Putin”

That sounds like a sober, well informed, dispassionate analysis from a serious student of history, politics, and social evolution.

Thanks for the insight.

As opposed to "every little thing's gonna be alright?" "And then a miracle happens"?