Did the the race talk debate start happenning more often since we know how many white ethno staters we have?

[DBTrek]

Governments, like religions, are cultural and social constructs. Arguing that blacks and Hispanics can’t possibly adapt to the American system on account of extremely minor variances in niche performance stats is akin to arguing that Chinese can’t be Christians on account of their genes.

Silly.

Unscientific.

Wrong.

[Speaker to Animals]

Another response I could expect is that society and government amount to nothing more than collective software that we could just replace on a whim. As if all humans are the same and we can simply reprogram Latinos culturally into white Americans. That doesn't happen. It's never happened, and there exists good reason for it (evolution).

The main form of evolution that most of us know about derives from changes in the environment. Alleles that offer some reproductive advantage given environmental variables tend to prosper over those that do not offer such advantages. For humans, especially with respect to reproduction in a complex society, the nature of your society and government are the primary environmental variables to which we adapt. Just think about it for a moment. Who you are allowed to marry and reproduce with for all of history was determined by social and cultural forces. In India, one had to marry within their caste. In Europe, a man married a woman from a family that shared his social and economic status (i.e. the most successful at generating surplus of some kind bred with one another). In China, for thousands of years, your rote memory and ability to pass regimented tests determined your ability to progress in the state bureaucracy, which in turn determined your income and thus the number of children you could sire. China had at least a two thousand year program of breeding for the most conformist and high-IQ individuals.

It also exists as a feedback loop. As China persisted, the highest-IQ individuals advanced in the bureaucracy, produced more children, and the growing number of high-conformist intelligent individuals determined a government that suited the very adaptations that made them successful. All of our racial civilizations were formed, endured, and evolved under completely different genetic imperatives. When you mix those things together in large proportions, you end up with inevitable conflict. What happens when a 50% Latino population wants collectivist policies that conflict with the Constitution? It just doesn't work well. It's a bad idea from the start.

The end result of such a society is a sectarian state in which all politics amounts to the major races and ethnicities having to work out compromises for their own interests against one another. All of the high-minded political discourse we knew before can't really exist in such a society -- and indeed we see all of that going away before our very eyes as the United States becomes more multi-ethnic. The days of high-level political philosophy differences are over. Now it's identity politics, smear, scandal, us-versus-them. The old days are gone because of our immigration policy. That's not coming back either.

[StCapps]

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If other countries can do it without resorting to dystopic measures, why can't America? Because it's harder to do? Not buying that.

It's impossible. I repeat, we can't get shit done that everyone agrees should be done. There's no way we'll do something that almost nobody wants to do.

But, you're cute to say so, and quite naive.

America is slower than most when it comes to getting shit done that needs to get done, but I still don't see how that would prevent them from changing their mind on the ethnostate tip.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Good times are here again.

[K@th]

But, you're cute to say so, and quite naive.

America is slower than most when it comes to getting shit done that needs to get done, but I still don't see how that would prevent them from changing their mind on the ethnostate tip.[/quote]
Because nobody wants it. Why should we go through the gymnastics required to do something nobody wants to do? Silliness.

[StCapps]

Because nobody wants it. Why should we go through the gymnastics required to do something nobody wants to do? Silliness.

They could change their minds. An ethnostate is a neutral concept, it's not inherently bad, so why can't they change their minds?

[K@th]

Because nobody wants it. Why should we go through the gymnastics required to do something nobody wants to do? Silliness.

They could change their minds.

lol.

Ok. You win.

If 75% of Congress decides that white people need to stay in the majority ~and~ they can get the rest of the country behind them ~and~they can get 75% of the states to approve the amendment , then, yes, we can have our white ethno state. Then you just have to convince enough black and brown people to leave the country voluntarily so whites can maintain the majority.

I had no idea how easy it would be! Why isn't it done yet? This should take a few minutes, at best.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Dude, it's obvious. All of those genetically inferior mongrels are gonna be happy to leave, if we ask them.

[DBTrek]

Again, all the pseudo-scientific film-flammery falls flat in the face of reality. America has a long and successful track record of integrating every type of person from around the globe, regardless of irrelevant and minor genetic differences. Third generation Americans are quite dissimilar from their first generation immigrant grandparents.

The proof is in the pudding, no distortion of Darwin will change that. You, of all people, should know better having served in the military. The US military which is run like a communist tyranny, and yet countless Anericans from all backgrounds successfully retire from it.

Kinda flies in the face of the whole “races are predisposed to whatever systems they have at the moment, ergo you can’t make them Americans”.

Of course, the entirety of human history refuted that argument as well, should another example be needed to drive the point home.

[StCapps]

Because nobody wants it. Why should we go through the gymnastics required to do something nobody wants to do? Silliness.

They could change their minds.

lol.

Ok. You win.

If 75% of Congress decides that white people need to stay in the majority ~and~ they can get the rest of the country behind them ~and~they can get 75% of the states to approve the amendment , then, yes, we can have our white ethno state. Then you just have to convince enough black and brown people to leave the country voluntarily so whites can maintain the majority.

I had no idea how easy it would be! Why isn't it done yet? This should take a few minutes, at best.

I said it was hard, stop pretending I said it was easy, just because I said it wasn't impossible. Also the White Ethno State can come about indirectly via a Notwithstanding Clause being added to the Constitution. Then it would only require the voters approving of it in a specific state. The Supreme Court couldn't even stop them at that point. Would also make a handy end around that vetocracy of yours that makes so hard to get things done that everybody wants, on top of providing people who want to live in an ethnostate the right to do so.