Star Trek Discovery

[Penner]

Stop blaming Enterprise for shit that clearly isn't it's fault. It was not the reason there was no more Trek series afterward until Discovery, it is not at fault for any of the new movies that you don't like. Knock off this rubbish.

Ratings fell, it was considered the least popular Trek at the time - largely due to that godawful opening. It bounced me off the show hard, for years.

CBS execs saw this, assumed Trek needed their special expertise, and they proceeded to can it (again), until they could get a flaming fucking idiot in the director's chair to "reboot" it. Fresh, hip new look for the kids, and all that.

And lens flair. Lots and lots of lens flair.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Stop blaming Enterprise for shit that clearly isn't it's fault. It was not the reason there was no more Trek series afterward until Discovery, it is not at fault for any of the new movies that you don't like. Knock off this rubbish.

Ratings fell, it was considered the least popular Trek at the time - largely due to that godawful opening. It bounced me off the show hard, for years.

CBS execs saw this, assumed Trek needed their special expertise, and they proceeded to can it (again), until they could get a flaming fucking idiot in the director's chair to "reboot" it. Fresh, hip new look for the kids, and all that.

And lens flair. Lots and lots of lens flair.

::80 year old snaps awake from the end of the boardroom, weakly mutters::
"What if the ships fly around really fast, and use "machine gun lasers" everywhere, like WW2 fighters? That works for Star Wars, right Jenkins? "

"Yes sir, that sounds perfect. "

[heydaralon]

Check that. Benjamin Sisko was the best captain and a superior commander.

[StCapps]

Ratings fell, it was considered the least popular Trek at the time - largely due to that godawful opening. It bounced me off the show hard, for years.

CBS execs saw this, assumed Trek needed their special expertise, and they proceeded to can it (again), until they could get a flaming fucking idiot in the director's chair to "reboot" it. Fresh, hip new look for the kids, and all that.

Ratings fell because the didn't even call it Star Trek, they just billed it as Enterprise. Plus too much Star Trek over a short period burned people out. Then the show got better and they started calling it Star Trek: Enterprise, but the ratings didn't climb high enough, so they cancelled it anyway.

Still not sure why people in this thread are blaming Enterprise for there not being more Star Trek until Discovery, and for the new movies they didn't like, that's just silly. Besides, if you want to blame a Trek Franchise for the decline, blame Voyager.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Check that. Benjamin Sisko was the best captain and a superior commander.

I'm only in the first season of DS9, but that actor is one weird dude... I can't get past his quirks.

[StCapps]

Check that. Benjamin Sisko was the best captain and a superior commander.

I'm only in the first season of DS9, but that actor is one weird dude... I can't get past his quirks.

The performance is all the matters. Why do you let how crazy an actor is in real life affect your enjoyment of their performance on a television show? Compartmentalization dude, try it.

[heydaralon]

Was Warf in all of the Star Trek series? I know he was in one of the 90's one. That make up looks absolutely absurd.

[Penner]

Was Warf in all of the Star Trek series? I know he was in one of the 90's one. That make up looks absolutely absurd.

No. He wasn't in:

TOS
TAS
VOY
ENT

[heydaralon]

I've started watching some star trek clips on youtube and I feel like this is an elaborate troll all of you guys are in on to fuck with me and get me to watch bad tv. There's like hundreds and hundreds of episodes of this shit right? Jesus. This is just silly silly shit in the worst kind of way. I knew my first instincts were right about Star Trek. I'm gonna steer clear of this nonsense.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Check that. Benjamin Sisko was the best captain and a superior commander.

I'm only in the first season of DS9, but that actor is one weird dude... I can't get past his quirks.

The performance is all the matters. Why do you let how crazy an actor is in real life affect your enjoyment of their performance on a television show? Compartmentalization dude, try it.

It’s all over his performance. The weird smiles, the bizarre over-enunciation. The guy is off.