Colbert takes the gloves off on Trump

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Re: Colbert takes the gloves off on Trump

Post by jbird4049 » Wed May 10, 2017 2:43 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:
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TheReal_ND wrote:Well you would never have been invited anyway. Who invited you? Besides, National Socialism in Germany concerning race meant they were willing to implement eugenics. It didn't mean that they all believed they were some kind of pure blooded Aryans. Half Jews served honorably under the third reich. Most anyone was welcome to join as long as they believed in the cause.
Eugenics as an active program, not some namby pamby research as stated in Great Britain, was the United States. The Germans merely improved on it. Instead of just sterilizing the mentally ill, the physically disabled, criminals, and the poor (of all races in the States), they started killing the hospitalized mentally ill. They even rigged up a test vehicle to kill some people with carbon monoxide gas, but mostly with poisoning, cutting off food, etc. There were doctors and nurses who helped. The program ended prematurely when relatives became suspicious, then started complaining.
Let's see your source for this. Sounds like th telephone game to me.
Are willing to read print (not ebook) books? I don't feel like transcribing, and I'm old school. I got some recommendations.

Start with Edwin Black's War Against the Weak

I think Gould's Mismeasure of Man has good material

And I have more but I don't want to rummage through my mess of a library right now.
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Re: Colbert takes the gloves off on Trump

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed May 10, 2017 2:47 pm

I'll read one if you watch one third of the Holocaust on YouTube

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Post by heydaralon » Wed May 10, 2017 7:23 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:
jbird4049 wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote:Well you would never have been invited anyway. Who invited you? Besides, National Socialism in Germany concerning race meant they were willing to implement eugenics. It didn't mean that they all believed they were some kind of pure blooded Aryans. Half Jews served honorably under the third reich. Most anyone was welcome to join as long as they believed in the cause.
Eugenics as an active program, not some namby pamby research as stated in Great Britain, was the United States. The Germans merely improved on it. Instead of just sterilizing the mentally ill, the physically disabled, criminals, and the poor (of all races in the States), they started killing the hospitalized mentally ill. They even rigged up a test vehicle to kill some people with carbon monoxide gas, but mostly with poisoning, cutting off food, etc. There were doctors and nurses who helped. The program ended prematurely when relatives became suspicious, then started complaining.
Let's see your source for this. Sounds like th telephone game to me.
I think he's talking about the T-4 program.
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Re: Colbert takes the gloves off on Trump

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed May 10, 2017 7:23 pm

Nice source faggot

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Post by jbird4049 » Wed May 10, 2017 10:24 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:I'll read one if you watch one third of the Holocaust on YouTube
Okay, I accept the challenge. Just be aware that I am buried in finals and a paper until the 26th.

So if you want to wait reading anything until then that's fine. I really should be reading about Atomism right now.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Wed May 10, 2017 10:42 pm

jbird4049 wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote:I'll read one if you watch one third of the Holocaust on YouTube
Okay, I accept the challenge. Just be aware that I am buried in finals and a paper until the 26th.

So if you want to wait reading anything until then that's fine. I really should be reading about Atomism right now.
Not STEM then, huh?

I got my last final in the morning. Electromechanical systems. Finished my last non-STEM class this semester. Best part, no more papers.

My head is spinning, and my brain keeps doing weird things like trying to find the current in situations that don't involve current.
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Re: Colbert takes the gloves off on Trump

Post by jbird4049 » Wed May 10, 2017 10:52 pm

heydaralon wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote:
jbird4049 wrote:
Eugenics as an active program, not some namby pamby research as stated in Great Britain, was the United States. The Germans merely improved on it. Instead of just sterilizing the mentally ill, the physically disabled, criminals, and the poor (of all races in the States), they started killing the hospitalized mentally ill. They even rigged up a test vehicle to kill some people with carbon monoxide gas, but mostly with poisoning, cutting off food, etc. There were doctors and nurses who helped. The program ended prematurely when relatives became suspicious, then started complaining.
Let's see your source for this. Sounds like th telephone game to me.
I think he's talking about the T-4 program.
That was only a stop from Victorian England to post WW1 America to Weimar Germany to the 1970s. The Germans got the idea from us, and we only finally stopped in the 70s. Although there were some news stories about a decade ago of a California women's prison doing so on its own.

And for a while it both support, and opposition, from across the political spectrum.
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The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
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Post by heydaralon » Wed May 10, 2017 11:06 pm

jbird4049 wrote:
heydaralon wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote:
Let's see your source for this. Sounds like th telephone game to me.
I think he's talking about the T-4 program.
That was only a stop from Victorian England to post WW1 America to Weimar Germany to the 1970s. The Germans got the idea from us, and we only finally stopped in the 70s. Although there were some news stories about a decade ago of a California women's prison doing so on its own.

And for a while it both support, and opposition, from across the political spectrum.
Yep. Many intellectuals in Britain and the US were all about eugenics. HG Wells, Oliver Wendell Holmes, Hellen Keller, and George Bernard Shaw all defended the practice to some extent. There were also those like Ernst Haeckel in Germany who were actually pacifists because they believed that war would cause the bravest, strongest, and most altruistic to die, leaving behind the genetic undesirables. Many scientists in Wiemar Germany also supported the practice, and found it extremely easy to align their beliefs with the new regime after 1933.
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Re: Colbert takes the gloves off on Trump

Post by jbird4049 » Wed May 10, 2017 11:25 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
jbird4049 wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote:I'll read one if you watch one third of the Holocaust on YouTube
Okay, I accept the challenge. Just be aware that I am buried in finals and a paper until the 26th.

So if you want to wait reading anything until then that's fine. I really should be reading about Atomism right now.
Not STEM then, huh?

I got my last final in the morning. Electromechanical systems. Finished my last non-STEM class this semester. Best part, no more papers.

My head is spinning, and my brain keeps doing weird things like trying to find the current in situations that don't involve current.
No STEM. Although any of it would probably have been more lucrative than political science or political economy.

I tried to learn programming, which I can do, but it is so damn uninteresting it's almost impossible for me to do. Does that make sense? Don't get me wrong, learning is still hard, I'm still a mathematical klutz. But with Poli Sci, or perhaps political economy, I enjoy the subject and can see me actually making a living somehow from it. Thankfully, being rich has never been a goal.

You've got my sympathy on the head spinning. A few times I studied so long that the actual text started to change into day glow colors. When the sentences started to hover just off the page, I called it a morning and when to sleep. I should have been scared but lack of sleep...
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.