MOAB Dropped in Afghanistan

[StCapps]

Every form of military technology is useless to GCF. Boring.

[Montegriffo]

[Smitty-48]

How many of those trillions do you think we spend on useless jets without the MIC beating its chest for 15 years, while we blow up tribespeople?

Far more would be spent on the high intensity spectrum conventional military product which Lockheed Martin and Raytheon specialize in, if the US got off the GWOT kick and went back to what the likes of Lockheed Martin and Raytheon really want, which is Full Spectrum Dominance in a Cold War against Near Peer Adversaries like Russia and China, and associated proxies like Iran and North Korea, Afghanistan and Iraq are not profit centers for Lockheed Martin and Raytheon, again, COIN actually cuts into their business, money is cut from the high intensity conventional warfare budget in order to pay for low intensity COIN, the vast majority of which is software personnel costs rather than hardware technology costs.

Fortress America in a permanent Cold War against a Sino-Russo Near Peer Adversary, is where the money is, for the likes of Lockheed Martin and Raytheon, and American jingoist chest beating about Full Spectrum Dominance and associated big ticket defense product, is actually harmed by dragging it down into the mire of COIN, that just incites liberals and lolbergs to cry about the defense budget being out of control, whereas what the Democrat Party is doing now? "Russia! Russia! Russia!"? Lockmart sharholders approve, cause; cha-ching.

The number one customer for Lockheed Martin and Raytheon, is the US Navy, the big vested interest, is preparing to fight World War Three on the high seas, against China, or Russia, or preferably both at the same time.

[SuburbanFarmer]

How many of those trillions do you think we spend on useless jets without the MIC beating its chest for 15 years, while we blow up tribespeople?

Far more would be spent on the high intensity spectrum conventional military product which Lockheed Martin and Raytheon specialize in, if the US got off the GWOT kick and went back to what the likes of Lockheed Martin and Raytheon really want, which is Full Spectrum Dominance in a Cold War against Near Peer Adversaries like Russia and China, and associated proxies like Iran and North Korea, Afghanistan and Iraq are not profit centers for Lockheed Martin and Raytheon, again, COIN actually cuts into their business, money is cut from the high intensity conventional warfare budget in order to pay for low intensity COIN, the vast majority of which is software personnel costs rather than hardware technology costs.

Fortress America in a permanent Cold War against a Sino-Russo Near Peer Adversary, is where the money is, for the likes of Lockheed Martin and Raytheon, and American jingoist chest beating about Full Spectrum Dominance and associated bug ticket defense product, is actually harmed by dragging it down into the mire of COIN, that just incites liberals and lolbergs to cry about the defense budget being out of control, whereas what the Democrat Party is doing now? "Russia! Russia! Russia!"? Lockmart sharholders approve, cause; cha-ching.

Doesn't matter, in America. To our beloved trailer parliament, Al Qaeda is at least as big, if not a bigger threat, than Russia, China, and all the other "over there" places. All we need is something to scare plebs, and the trillions flow forth. Once that fades, we need it for jawbs, because holy shit, if we stop now, we're fucked and I just need one more election to pay off my mistress, and get the fuck into lobbying for Goldman Sachs.

[StCapps]

Everything is either useless or obsolete, it's his argument in every military related thread. He has no good reasons to say why the US should spend less on it's military so he attacks all military spending as a waste of money, it's lazy and boring argumentation, if you aren't observant enough to pick up on GCF's tendency to do this in every military related thread, then you don't read his posts often enough. It's no strawman, it's his go to anti-military spending argument, pretend everything is useless or obsolete, that way it's easier to pitch spending it places he would prefer with as little thought as to which military spending is wasteful and which isn't, it's knee-jerk all spending is bad spending, every thread from him, there is no nuance to his argument whatsoever, he honestly thinks it's some kind of mic drop.

[Smitty-48]

Doesn't matter, in America. To our beloved trailer parliament, Al Qaeda is at least as big, if not a bigger threat, than Russia, China, and all the other "over there" places. All we need is something to scare plebs, and the trillions flow forth. Once that fades, we need it for jawbs, because holy shit, if we stop now, we're fucked and I just need one more election to pay off my mistress, and get the fuck into lobbying for Goldman Sachs.

Neither Lockheed Martin nor Raytheon is the driving force behind the United States persisting in its mission in Afghanistan, it's really just a product of insitutional inertia in Washington, the defnse contractors moved on from Afghanistan a long tme ago, like in 2003, in case you didn't notice.

Afpak is an MIC back water, the only reason you're still there, is because Obama called it the "good war", in order to give him political cover to rail against Iraq as the "bad war", has nothing to do with Lockheed Martin, nor Raytheon, nor Exxon Mobile neither, it's just a Democrat Party talking point which has taken on a life of its own, which nobody in Washington is particularly concerned with adressing, since casualties have been reduced to such a trickle at this point, that the American public doesn't pay any particular notice to it.

20 to 30 troops killed per month? Big problem. 10 to 20 killed per year? Nobody cares. Obama left you in Afghanistan, but the Taliban don't kill enough Americans anymore, to make Washington do anything about it, either way; simple as that, intitutional iniertia zombie mission, which doesn't reach the threshold of America giving a shit, now that the libral media has other things to caterwaul about ceaselessly.

[SuburbanFarmer]

All the same in the end, I guess. We'll just keep blowing shit up, and pumping out beans/bullets/bandages until we need a new target. Then lo, one will appear.

[Smitty-48]

All the same in the end, I guess. We'll just keep blowing shit up, and pumping out beans/bullets/bandages until we need a new target. Then lo, one will appear.

There are no targets required, other than China, Russia, Iran and North Korea, and the money is not in bandages, there's no pork in the districts keeping the bases open, based on the number of beans the US military buys, it's all about the bases, and the bases are all about the big ticket items, and the big ticket items are all about the Near Peer, not COIN.

COIN is not a profit center for the MIC, COIN is not enough pork to justify the bases in the districts, COIN actually cuts into all that, the MIC is not particularly intersted in COIN, in fact they'd be quite happy to be rid of it, so they could get back to what they really like, which is technogically based Full Spectrum Dominance in a permanent Cold War against a Sino-Russo Near Pear and associated proxies.

[SuburbanFarmer]

All the same in the end, I guess. We'll just keep blowing shit up, and pumping out beans/bullets/bandages until we need a new target. Then lo, one will appear.

There are no targets required, other than China, Russia, Iran and North Korea, and the money is not in bandages, there's no pork in the districts keeping the bases open, based on the number of beans the US military buys, it's all about the bases, and the bases are all about the big ticket items, and the big ticket items are all about the Near Peer, not COIN.

COIN is not a profit center for the MIC, COIN is not enough pork to justify the bases in the districts, COIN actually cuts into all that, the MIC is not particularly intersted in COIN, in fact they'd be quite happy to be rid of it, so they could get back to what they really like, which is technogically based Full Spectrum Dominance in a permanent Cold War against a Sino-Russo Near Pear and associated proxies.

Nonsense. You need your stuff to get blown up, in order to replace it faster. We aren't suddenly going to get all full-spectrum budget without something to distract the proles. Iraqistan is necessary to eat up headlines and justify insane spending levels in the first place. Without that, you have people thinking dangerous things like 'peace' or realizing that we can blow up the world in 30 minutes, so it really might not make sense to spend more than the rest of the world combined on "defense".

[Smitty-48]

All the same in the end, I guess. We'll just keep blowing shit up, and pumping out beans/bullets/bandages until we need a new target. Then lo, one will appear.

There are no targets required, other than China, Russia, Iran and North Korea, and the money is not in bandages, there's no pork in the districts keeping the bases open, based on the number of beans the US military buys, it's all about the bases, and the bases are all about the big ticket items, and the big ticket items are all about the Near Peer, not COIN.

COIN is not a profit center for the MIC, COIN is not enough pork to justify the bases in the districts, COIN actually cuts into all that, the MIC is not particularly intersted in COIN, in fact they'd be quite happy to be rid of it, so they could get back to what they really like, which is technogically based Full Spectrum Dominance in a permanent Cold War against a Sino-Russo Near Pear and associated proxies.

Nonsense. You need your stuff to get blown up, in order to replace it faster. We aren't suddenly going to get all full-spectrum budget without something to distract the proles. Iraqistan is necessary to eat up headlines and justify insane spending levels in the first place. Without that, you have people thinking dangerous things like 'peace' or realizing that we can blow up the world in 30 minutes, so it really might not make sense to spend more than the rest of the world combined on "defense".

You clearly don't need anything to be blown up to justify the MIC; as the largest MIC and associated military and base build up since the Second World War, was under Ronald Reagan from 1981-1988, and the only military operations conducted at the time, was Grenada, and one bombing raid on Libya.