Trump Tower Bugged by BHO?

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Post by The Conservative » Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:52 am

Montegriffo wrote:
The Conservative wrote: A Syrian which failed to get into Germany legally, blew himself up... yet the BBC calls him a Migrant... seriously? You don't see a problem with that?
I'm sorry but I don't understand the question.
A person gaining entry to Germany from abroad is clearly a migrant. Are you objecting to the lack of the prefix "illegal" ?
The words failed asylum seeker appear to have made that distinction clearly enough.
So you believe that there is no difference between someone there legally and not?
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Post by clubgop » Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:02 am

ssu wrote:
clubgop wrote:Wow that's breathtaking dishonesty. Why should he expect a truthful answer one way or the other?
Um, like he's the President of the United States?

Like he uhhh, had this transition team and so on, he picked the guys who he wanted to work with (Pompayo, Dan Coats)... and can fire those he doesn't like. :lol:

So if your President doesn't trust American intelligence services then what, he asks Bibi for Mossad assistance? The Russians would likely gladly help too. Or uh, perhaps not this time. :P

And what about the 5 million illegal voters that voted Hillary?

How is that inquiry going on? Any news from that? Five million fraudulent votes ought to be quite easy to find...

Or seriously, why take Trump's tweets seriously in the first place as they are meant for distraction?
So? The Trump is acting like the MSM just throwing the shit against a wall and seeing what sticks. Except when the MSM it has real world consequences when Trump does it, its too sooth his ego and has no effect on the real politik. Notice the only person denying is Clapper who is a known liar on this issue specifically.

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Re: Trump Tower Bugged by BHO?

Post by Montegriffo » Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:08 am

The Conservative wrote:
Montegriffo wrote:
The Conservative wrote: A Syrian which failed to get into Germany legally, blew himself up... yet the BBC calls him a Migrant... seriously? You don't see a problem with that?
I'm sorry but I don't understand the question.
A person gaining entry to Germany from abroad is clearly a migrant. Are you objecting to the lack of the prefix "illegal" ?
The words failed asylum seeker appear to have made that distinction clearly enough.
So you believe that there is no difference between someone there legally and not?
Obviously there is a difference but as the report calls him a failed asylum seeker in the first sentence of the actual report I don't understand where you feel there is some kind of a cover up.
Most European states put migrants through an asylum system and attempt to deport those who fail the test.
I don't see the report denying his actions were terrorism or covering up the fact he was illegal.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:16 am

It is not at all clear from their text that this was an illegal immigrant. Lots of people were denied asylum and remain in the nation for some period of time before their deportation. They could have been allowed in the nation while their asylum claim is processed.

An illegal immigrant is somebody who illegally enters your nation or remains their after his invitation is rescinded.

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Post by Alexander PhiAlipson » Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:22 am

Montegriffo wrote:Obviously there is a difference but as the report calls him a failed asylum seeker in the first sentence of the actual report I don't understand where you feel there is some kind of a cover up.
Most European states put migrants through an asylum system and attempt to deport those who fail the test.
I don't see the report denying his actions were terrorism or covering up the fact he was illegal.
Yeah, the BBC didn't see a problem with the title either, THAT'S WHY THEY CHANGED IT!
“Syrian asylum seeker blows himself up in Germany,” because it wasn't misleading at all--nope.
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Post by The Conservative » Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:22 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:It is not at all clear from their text that this was an illegal immigrant. Lots of people were denied asylum and remain in the nation for some period of time before their deportation. They could have been allowed in the nation while their asylum claim is processed.

An illegal immigrant is somebody who illegally enters your nation or remains their after his invitation is rescinded.
Last time I checked, a failed attempt means the person is not welcome there... the one thing the story doesn't say is how long after his rejection did this happen.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:23 am

The Conservative wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:It is not at all clear from their text that this was an illegal immigrant. Lots of people were denied asylum and remain in the nation for some period of time before their deportation. They could have been allowed in the nation while their asylum claim is processed.

An illegal immigrant is somebody who illegally enters your nation or remains their after his invitation is rescinded.
Last time I checked, a failed attempt means the person is not welcome there... the one thing the story doesn't say is how long after his rejection did this happen.

But it takes tI'm to decide what to do with the person.

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:24 am

Alexander PhiAlipson wrote:
Montegriffo wrote:Obviously there is a difference but as the report calls him a failed asylum seeker in the first sentence of the actual report I don't understand where you feel there is some kind of a cover up.
Most European states put migrants through an asylum system and attempt to deport those who fail the test.
I don't see the report denying his actions were terrorism or covering up the fact he was illegal.
Yeah, the BBC didn't see a problem with the title either, THAT'S WHY THEY CHANGED IT!
“Syrian asylum seeker blows himself up in Germany,” because it wasn't misleading at all--nope.
:doh:

Donald Trump's hateful rhetoric caused it.

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Post by The Conservative » Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:25 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:It is not at all clear from their text that this was an illegal immigrant. Lots of people were denied asylum and remain in the nation for some period of time before their deportation. They could have been allowed in the nation while their asylum claim is processed.

An illegal immigrant is somebody who illegally enters your nation or remains their after his invitation is rescinded.
Last time I checked, a failed attempt means the person is not welcome there... the one thing the story doesn't say is how long after his rejection did this happen.

But it takes tI'm to decide what to do with the person.
True, but how much time? That's really the question at hand.
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Re: Trump Tower Bugged by BHO?

Post by ssu » Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:42 am

clubgop wrote: So? The Trump is acting like the MSM just throwing the shit against a wall and seeing what sticks. Except when the MSM it has real world consequences when Trump does it, its too sooth his ego and has no effect on the real politik.
I agree.

Will this be a de facto Pence administration even with Trump being the President?

Because the nation felt a relief when Trump stayed on the teleprompter, but then this thing with Sessions...Why would anybody get angry about some Sessions thing? Why start now a fight with Obama? It won't go anywhere, especially after Sessions recused himself. Democrats are so lame compared to the Republicans in going after an administration.

The whole job hasn't even started yet. Everything is about his own domestic thing with the media and domestic politics. The real grinder hasn't yet even started with this guy.