The Chapel

[Speaker to Animals]

In science, what matters is a model that makes falsifiable predictions that we can test and duplicate. String theory and multiversus ain't that..

[TheReal_ND]

We already established that degrees & licenses mean nothing. Money & fame. What do the rich & famous people think? That's all that matters.

I can double your money in a week or two. I only charge 10% for telling you exactly how.

[DrYouth]

DrY seems to have gotten that far. He just doesn't know how to whittle it down from there.

So I have gotten as far as theism?

So I'm a theist...

Well that's something.

I read Karen Armstrong's the History of God... found it pretty worthwhile.

We'll see if I get around to some of those other references...

In the meantime just posting some musings...

[Speaker to Animals]

I mean more in the sense that you begin to see the contradictions in atheism.

If you put all the modern belief systems in a deck of cards, atheism has the least evidence to support it, hence the "mulitiverse" fiction.

Say what you want about everybody else's belief system, atheism is the least probable of all. It's entirely contradicted by it's own axioms (the same axioms underlying science itself).

[DrYouth]

I mean more in the sense that you begin to see the contradictions in atheism.

I guess I'm not an atheist...

Can't say I can validly take that position.

It's an interesting conclusion really.

[TheReal_ND]

Agnostic then. Much more honest.

[DrYouth]

Not really sure what that has to do with multiverses...

That being said I put no stock in the theory of multiverses... I've heard enough to be very unimpressed with that and string theory and much of what has come out of theoretical physics for the past while.

[DrYouth]

Agnostic then. Much more honest.

Sure...

but agnostic sounds too vague for my liking...

Basically like saying "I don't know"...

I feel pretty strongly about the first number of statements in my post... those seem to add up to more than "I don't know".

[TheReal_ND]

Agnostic then. Much more honest.

Sure...

but agnostic sounds too vague for my liking...

Basically like saying "I don't know"...

I feel pretty strongly about the first number of statements in my post... those seem to add up to more than "I don't know".

I suppose.

[K@th]

Agnostic is exactly like saying I don't know. With regards to is there/is there not a god, it's the only truly honest position, since neither of the other positions can be proven.

I mean, Kirk Cameron thinks a banana peel proves god, because it covers the banana so perfectly. His silliness aside, there is literally no proof on either side.