THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:26 pm

Most Haitians and Salvadorans are going to get a rude awakening by fleeing here, some will get picked up by local companies to do the work that Canadians refuse to do, but the deal they had with the US government doesn't apply here, so most of them will end up being deported, because you can't make an asylum claim from the USA, and unless somebody wants to sponsor them by hiring them here, they won't be able to get a work permit.

Basically just accelerating the deportation process in most cases.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:31 pm

The reality is, America is actually far more welcoming to immigrants than Canada is, even with Trump, because you still have chain migration in the USA, whereas it's merit based here, so the only other option is claiming refugee status, but they can't claim refugee status in Canada from the USA, they'd be better off trying to get a relative in the USA to sponsor them, because that's not an option here.

A handful of them will get picked up by Canadian companies to slaughter chickens or whatever, but most of them will be shit out of luck.

Canada being welcoming to all immigrants is a myth, you basically have to buy your way into Canada, there's a hard cap on refugees, and the only other option is temporary foreign workers, and none of that is done by just crossing the border from the USA, basically just praying for a work permit, other than that, they got no good options.

Canadian companies will come, they'll skim off the top 10% or so, the rest of them will get rejected and sent back.

And not back to the USA, we'll deport them straight back their country of origin, so they're really just going from the frying pan to the fire here.
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Post by C-Mag » Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:56 pm

The Shutdown ended with a whimper. But the POTUS and the GOP stuck it to the Dems a little in bill that got government going again.


Republicans extracted a price from Democrats for resuming government operations: another $31 billion in tax cuts.

Surprise, surprise, surprise.

And the tax cuts are stripped from Obamacare.
That right there is called dominating your opponent. Trump is teaching the GOP not only how to win, but how to dominate.


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Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:06 pm

But that tax was harming support for Obamacare, that was one of the major complaints about Obamacare, that seems to help the Democrats actually, lets them off the hook from something they wanted to get rid of.

Sounds more like the Democrats got rid of a problem, and got the GOP to give them political cover to do it.

The GOP hasn't repealed Obamacare, so it wasn't a win for you to remove a tax which was making Obamacare less popular, they're basically helping to prop Obamacare up there.

You got swindled, guy, that's a bait and switch by the GOP in congress, they just let the Democrats off the hook, and breathed life back to Obamacare.

That tax was a major impediment to Obamacare, if the GOP was actually going to repeal and replace, they never would have removed that tax, removing that tax is basically just admitting that Obamacare is here to stay, and the GOP are going to help the Democrats save it, because the GOP doesn't actually have a plan B.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:04 pm

CNN,
A big loss for Schumer and the Democrats

All anyone needed to know about how the #SchumerShutdown was going to end could be found in the votes of five red-state Democrats who, on Friday night, bailed on their party's leader and supported President Donald Trump and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's position to keep the government open.

Joe Manchin (West Virginia), Claire McCaskill (Missouri), Joe Donnelly (Indiana), Heidi Heitkamp (North Dakota) and Doug Jones (Alabama) bucked Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer because they knew there was no way to explain why their party was prioritizing 700,000 non-US citizens in the DACA program over nine million children who rely on the CHIP program for insurance. Four of those senators are on the ballot this November, and the other-- Jones -- just got to Washington and seems like a guy who wants to stay there when he faces re-election in 2020.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:16 pm

DACA's not going to have any effect on the mid-terms, those 700,000 people don't have the power to swing the districts, the media is making a big deal about it, but nobody is going to vote based on DACA, that's not going to hurt the Democrats, they made their stand, the government got shutdown, that's all you're getting Dreamers, and they're just going to move on, because the Dreamers ain't deciding any elections, get real.

If Trump ends DACA, that's Trump's fault, are Democrats going to punish the Democrats for it? No way, that ain't how it works, they just called Trump's bluff and bounced it back to him, while giving themselves political cover to do so.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:35 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:DACA's not going to have any effect on the mid-terms, those 700,000 people don't have the power to swing the districts, the media is making a big deal about it, but nobody is going to vote based on DACA, that's not going to hurt the Democrats, they made their stand, the government got shutdown, that's all you're getting Dreamers, and they're just going to move on, because the Dreamers ain't deciding any elections, get real.

If Trump ends DACA, that's Trump's fault, are Democrats going to punish the Democrats for it? No way, that ain't how it works, they just called Trump's bluff and bounced it back to him, while giving themselves political cover to do so.
He already ended it.

He put it on congress to do something, and they won't.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:48 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:DACA's not going to have any effect on the mid-terms, those 700,000 people don't have the power to swing the districts, the media is making a big deal about it, but nobody is going to vote based on DACA, that's not going to hurt the Democrats, they made their stand, the government got shutdown, that's all you're getting Dreamers, and they're just going to move on, because the Dreamers ain't deciding any elections, get real.

If Trump ends DACA, that's Trump's fault, are Democrats going to punish the Democrats for it? No way, that ain't how it works, they just called Trump's bluff and bounced it back to him, while giving themselves political cover to do so.
He already ended it.

He put it on congress to do something, and they won't.

Where are you living?
They don't have to do anything, Trump is the one who promised a DACA for Wall Funding deal, and he didn't get it, congress doesn't take the heat for that, they didn't promise that deal, Trump did. Nobody in congress is going to be blamed for anything, and they didn't fund the wall, which clearly the GOP in congress are not pushing very hard for, since they didn't extract that from the Democrats when they had the Democrats down on the mat, instead, they removed an impediment to Obamacare, the medical device tax, which the Democrats needed to get rid of anyways, since the medical device companies were lobbying them to get rid of it.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:59 pm

I mean, the bottom line, is that the GOP in congress are mostly in cahoots with the Democrats, if there is something which they want, like tax cuts, they get that passed easy, but if there is something which Trump wants but they don't want, they'll work with the Democrats to slow walk it into the ditch.

The implication being, that they believe the polls, they don't think Trump is that popular, they must think he's a drag on downstream voting in the midterms, so they're trying to keep him at arms length to save their own necks.

The midterms are not a referendum on the Democrats, the Democrats don't control anything, it's entirely a referendum on the GOP, and if they're not pushing hard for Trump and his agenda, they must think that thirty something approve fifty something disapprove, is his real number.
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Post by C-Mag » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:23 am

Angry illegals converge on Schumer home: ‘We won’t let him sleep!’ :clap:

Video at the link
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/angry- ... let-sleep/


For the moment I'm loving these illegals :lol:
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