Meanwhile in Ukraine

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:43 pm

if Russia had managed to pull this off fait accompli, with minimal damage

I could have remained neutral

but now that the Russians have gone back to being the Soviets

aggressive war of annihilation to destroy Ukraine right down to the wood

I can no longer remain neutral

I side with the Ukrainians, until such time as the Soviets are driven out
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Martin Hash » Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:45 pm

Ukraine should surrender: it will save lives.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:48 pm

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All Ukraine has to do is surrender to save lives so something must be more important?
Not necessarily. But they should negotiate.

The smart move for the world is to offer no NATO entrance for Ukraine, and Ukraine recognizes the breakaway republics of Donbass. That's probably all it would take. A war has been going on there for 8 years because Ukraine won't recognize them.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:49 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:45 pm
Ukraine should surrender: it will save lives.
Russia should pull out

as this war will continue until they are reduced to their knees
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:51 pm

my Russian neighbors agree

they say that Putin is a madman who is dragging Russia down into a catastrophe for Russians
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:52 pm

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:57 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:52 pm
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sounds like Soviet propaganda from the Cold War / shrugs
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Martin Hash » Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:58 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:49 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:45 pm
Ukraine should surrender: it will save lives.
Russia should pull out

as this war will continue until they are reduced to their knees
So it’s not the Ukrainian people who are top priority, it’s something else? Name that thing: maybe it’s so important I’ll change my mind into supporting a CIA-installed puppet government?
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Martin Hash » Sun Mar 06, 2022 4:00 pm

What about the 13 sorties the Saudis ran against civilians in Yemen yesterday? Are they unfashionable victims? Does anybody even know?
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Sun Mar 06, 2022 4:00 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:57 pm
C-Mag wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:52 pm
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sounds like Soviet propaganda from the Cold War / shrugs
I've already posted screen shots from the US Embassy in Ukraine showing the US has a Bio Program in the Ukraine. So it's real. Could be innocuous, but the program does exist.

We know the US directly supported the research of the Corona Virus in Wuhan. I don't see this as a stretch at all.

Russia has released their own docs as well.
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