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Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Sep 04, 2017 12:39 pm

ssu wrote:After all, your looking at a solution.
That's because I deal with the reality of nuclear war rather than the liberal media fantasy, I know that the United States could be hit by a limited strike with hydrogen bombs from North Korea, and that would not in fact be the end of the world, the United States wouldn't be able to launch a massive retaliation, the North Koreans would not pay a price comensurate to the damage done, and the Russians and Chinese would not intercede to save nor support the Americans, rather, the sun would come up the next day, America would have several million killed, the CONUS would be devastated by radioactive fallout, and the Russians and Chinese would pounce to take full advantage of a crippled American hegemon, who they in fact fear, loathe and despise.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Sep 04, 2017 12:44 pm

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Montegriffo wrote:Someone is going to have to explain what possible incentive NK has to launch a nuclear attack on the US. For the NK regime Unilaterally Assured Destruction is the only outcome from that choice of action. Why are the elite going to risk their comfortable lives?
Already been adressed multiple times, there is no assured destruction, the North Korean regime can hunker down and survive any viable response the Americans would be willing to risk, it's not existential for them, that's all part of the delusion of the liberal orthodoxy, but in actual fact, the United States cannot risk massive retaliation countervalue against the regime, both because that would devastate South Korea and Japan in the porcess, but moreover, would incitre the Chinese and Russians to interdict, which the Americans would never risk, because that is existential threat to the United States incarnate, can't risk an out nuclear exchange, just to take out Pyongyang, and Pyongyang well knows it.
Still not seeing why NK would bomb the US and in turn be systematically bombed back to the dark age.
For NK having the bomb is their ultimate deterant to protect themselves from invasion, same with every other power which has it. It's not in their interest to use it as an offensive weapon.
The North Koreans are under no threat of invasion, the regime is not in any danger of being overthrown, the liberal orthodoxy of "it's all about regime change and deterrent" is a mistaken assumption based on liberals projecting their preferred template on the situation, rather than seeing what the North Koreans really are and what they're really up to

And what they're really up to, will incite a crisis at some point, because; they're not defensive, they are offensive, trying to win the Korean War by escalation dominance nuclear blackmail to force the Americans, and then the South Koreans, to capitulate to their terms.

When that crisis comes, it will be hair trigger at the brink, but not existential for the North Korean regime, just existential for millions of Americans who will get hit with hydrogen bombs, when the US is backs against the wall, and has to execute the counterforce, against a fully operational North Korean nuclear capability, by then in use them or lose them mode.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Sep 04, 2017 12:50 pm

The Bixby button was truly unforgivable, Smitty. We could stand to lose Samsung.

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Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Mon Sep 04, 2017 12:52 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
ssu wrote:After all, your looking at a solution.
That's because I deal with the reality of nuclear war rather than the liberal media fantasy, I know that the United States could be hit by a limited strike with hydrogen bombs from North Korea, and that would not in fact be the end of the world, the United States wouldn't be able to launch a massive retaliation, the North Koreans would not pay price comensurate to the damage done, and the Russians and Chinese would not intercede to save nor support the Americans, rather, the sun would come up the next day, America would have several million killed, the CONUS would be devastated by radioactive fallout, and the Russians and Chinese would pounce to take full advantge of it.
Didn't the Russians and Chinese get on America's side after 9/11? You don't think the would countenance an American nuclear retaliation after we ate a DPRK Hydrogen bomb?

The only thing that wouldn't be commensurate is the DPRK doesn't have as much nice stuff to atomize.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Sep 04, 2017 12:54 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:The Bixby button was truly unforgivable, Smitty. We could stand to lose Samsung.
I'm being realisitc, no liberal orthodoxy delusions, but delusions about America just nuking everybody willy nilly neither, if/when America gets hit with a hydrogen bomb or three.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Sep 04, 2017 12:55 pm

I put the phone in my pocket and then while I am walking around, fucking Justin Bieber starts blaring out of my crotch all because Samsung thought it would be a great idea to create a physical button that triggers a non-optional voice assistance that overrides even the fucking lock screen and pushes videos onto people they don't even want to hear.

Fucking nuke them, please.

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Post by Okeefenokee » Mon Sep 04, 2017 12:55 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:The Bixby button was truly unforgivable, Smitty. We could stand to lose Samsung.
It's like they don't understand that people who don't own apple, and don't want apple, don't want their non-apple stuff to be just like apple.
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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:07 pm

No button doing that on my iPhone. Just volume, Home, and power.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:08 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:No button doing that on my iPhone. Just volume, Home, and power.
Dude, the Bixby button is like the goto statement of smart phones. It's the most retarded thing I have ever seen in mobile devices, and that's saying a lot.

I wasn't joking earlier. I literally had Justin Bieber blaring out from crotch because the button accidentally got pushed, and the Bixby button overrides the lock screen to bring up a huge page full of adverts and videos and bullshit like that.

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Re: North Korea News

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:09 pm

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Didn't the Russians and Chinese get on America's side after 9/11? You don't think the would countenance an American nuclear retaliation after we ate a DPRK Hydrogen bomb?

The only thing that wouldn't be commensurate is the DPRK doesn't have as much nice stuff to atomize.
They would countenance a limited nuclear retaliation, counterforce against the NK nuclear weapons, they would not countenance a massive retaliation to obliterate the North Koreans, because Russia and China and significant strategic assets, are right there just across the border, so nuking the North Koreans into the stone age, would involve nuking the Russians and Chinese and their strategic assets at the same time inclusive to that.

This would incite the Russians and Chinese to retaliate with nuclear weapons in theater, against similar US targets, South Korea, Japan, Guam, and then you're off to the races all the way to all out nuclear war, which is why, big time massive retaliation against North Korea hitting the Russians and Chinese too by default; America could not, and would not actually risk that.

So even if you get hit with an H-bomb, the North Korean regime would survive retaliation and live to fight another day, you'd hit them hard, you kill a lot of North Koreans, but you wouldn't kill the regime itself, meanwhile, you've still been hit with hydrogen bombs in the CONUS, millions are dead and dying, and you are crippled.
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