North Korea News

[ssu]

North Korea is not like other nuclear powers, the idea that the Juche doomsday cult drinking its own kool-aid for generations up in this ultimate totalitarian Hermit Kingdom, is "just like Russia and China and India and Pakistan", is a grave error in judgement.

And the history of dealing with North Korea since this program started, is the history of the Americans whistling past the graveyard, buying into a liberal establishmemt orthodoxy which completely misjudges the situation and projects a template onto the North Koreans which does reflect the reality of the regime, nor what they are actually doing.

The way I see it that likely they have similar ideas about nuclear weapons as Castro had. If the US attacks, hell yeah! Bring it on then! No matter of the consequences afterwards. Use them!

Yet that North Korea would ummm.... make a pre-emptive attack at the US? Just how? It doesn't make any sense.

And you think North Korea will attack South Korea? Try to invade again?

The most likely scenario where North Korea would be reckless is if the system collapses on it's own and the leadership thinks it's the doing of the US, and wants a grand finale á la Hitler in the Bunker wanting destroy Germany. Even that is a long shot in my opinion.

[TheReal_ND]

General Mattis called Air Force Global Strike Command headquarters shortly after he issued the go code. I have a portion of the transcript of that conversation:

The Duty Officer asked General Mattis to confirm the fact that he *had* issued the go code, and he said, "Yes gentlemen, they are on their way in, and no one can bring them back. For the sake of our country, and our way of life, I suggest you get the rest of AFGSC in after them. Otherwise, we will be totally destroyed by DPRK retaliation. My boys will give you the best kind of start, 1400 megatons worth, and you sure as hell won't stop them now, so let's get going, there's no other choice. God willing, we will prevail, in peace and freedom from fear, and in true health, through the purity and essence of His natural... tweets. Goodspeed to you all, trannies out of the Armed Forces," and he hung up.

[Montegriffo]

Someone is going to have to explain what possible incentive NK has to launch a nuclear attack on the US. For the NK regime Unilaterally Assured Destruction is the only outcome from that choice of action. Why are the elite going to risk their comfortable lives?

[Smitty-48]

There's a lot of moves than just the final one.

The final move is the counterforce, the issue is that the Americans, blinded by hubris and the liberal establishment orthodoxy, will let it come to a place, wherein when the crisis is at hand, they won't be able take the North Koreans down, without the North Koreans getting their shots in, and those shots will be multimegaton yield hydrogen bombs, turning counterforce from what it is now, a viable and totally one sided option, into an existential gambit with American backs against the wall, and so when the Korean Missile Crisis comes to pass, buckle up, and have those bomb shelters and iodine tablets ready.

[Okeefenokee]

General Mattis called Air Force Global Strike Command headquarters shortly after he issued the go code. I have a portion of the transcript of that conversation:

The Duty Officer asked General Mattis to confirm the fact that he *had* issued the go code, and he said, "Yes gentlemen, they are on their way in, and no one can bring them back. For the sake of our country, and our way of life, I suggest you get the rest of AFGSC in after them. Otherwise, we will be totally destroyed by DPRK retaliation. My boys will give you the best kind of start, 1400 megatons worth, and you sure as hell won't stop them now, so let's get going, there's no other choice. God willing, we will prevail, in peace and freedom from fear, and in true health, through the purity and essence of His natural... tweets. Goodspeed to you all, trannies out of the Armed Forces," and he hung up.

lol

[Smitty-48]

Someone is going to have to explain what possible incentive NK has to launch a nuclear attack on the US. For the NK regime Unilaterally Assured Destruction is the only outcome from that choice of action. Why are the elite going to risk their comfortable lives?

Already been adressed multiple times, there is no assured destruction, the North Korean regime can hunker down and survive any viable response the Americans would be willing to risk, it's not existential for them, that's all part of the delusion of the liberal orthodoxy, but in actual fact, the United States cannot risk massive retaliation countervalue against the regime, both because that would devastate South Korea and Japan in the porcess, but moreover, would incitre the Chinese and Russians to interdict, which the Americans would never risk, because that is existential threat to the United States incarnate, can't risk an out nuclear exchange, just to take out Pyongyang, and Pyongyang well knows it.

[Speaker to Animals]

After the Bixby button debacle, I am fully prepared to lose South Korea.

[ssu]

There's a lot of moves than just the final one.

The final move is the counterforce, the issue is that the Americans, blinded by hubris and the liberal establishment orthodoxy, will let it come to a place, wherein when the crisis is at hand, they won't be able take the North Koreans down, without the North Koreans getting their shots in, and those shots will be multimegaton yield hydrogen bombs, turning counterforce from what it is now, a viable and totally one sided option, into an existential gambit with American backs against the wall, and so when the Korean Missile Crisis comes to pass, buckle up, and have those bomb shelters and iodine tablets ready.

That can happen.

After all, your looking at a solution. A rather final one. But politicians look for an action that will be best for the moment at hand. The fuck with the future!

It's then somebody else at the helm if the Korean Missile Crisis happens when North Korea has a fully operational nuclear triad. (Or the nuclear dyad or pair, SLBMs and mobile ICBMs)

[Smitty-48]

After the Bixby button debacle, I am fully prepared to lose South Korea.

Washington is not going to nuke South Korea and Japan, and risk an all out nuclear exchange with the Chinese and Russians, under any circumstances, to include a limited strike with hydrogen bombs in the CONUS.

That's the rhetorical deterrent of the liberal establishment orthordoxy, which is fed to the American public, in order to keep people calm, when in fact, there is no nuclear deterrent against North Korea, and the liberal orthodoxy is far to timid to execute the countrerforce preemptively, and so you're actually vectoring towards Kobayashi Maru, slowly, but surely, because the mistaken assumption of the liberal orthodoxy, is that somehow China and Russia are going to just come in and save you at the last moment.

[Montegriffo]

Someone is going to have to explain what possible incentive NK has to launch a nuclear attack on the US. For the NK regime Unilaterally Assured Destruction is the only outcome from that choice of action. Why are the elite going to risk their comfortable lives?

Already been adressed multiple times, there is no assured destruction, the North Korean regime can hunker down and survive any viable response the Americans would be willing to risk, it's not existential for them, that's all part of the delusion of the liberal orthodoxy, but in actual fact, the United States cannot risk massive retaliation countervalue against the regime, both because that would devastate South Korea and Japan in the porcess, but moreover, would incitre the Chinese and Russians to interdict, which the Americans would never risk, because that is existential threat to the United States incarnate, can't risk an out nuclear exchange, just to take out Pyongyang, and Pyongyang well knows it.

Still not seeing why NK would bomb the US and in turn be systematically bombed back to the dark age.
For NK having the bomb is their ultimate deterant to protect themselves from invasion, same with every other power which has it. It's not in their interest to use it as an offensive weapon.