Net Neutrality

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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by Zlaxer » Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:48 am

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The Conservative wrote:
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There would be, in the middle of a fucking major city, you dipwad. :lol: We're talking about a slightly larger area tho.
Yeah, except that places like the next town over to where I live also have RCN, Verizon and Comcast... so what's your logic on that one?
You're in the middle of fucking New England. Jesus H, do I even have to explain this to you? LOL

EDIT: I have no idea what RCN is, but I'm guessing cable company. So, when you sign up for them, do they re-run a coax line to your house? Are there duplicate coax cables on every power pole? Seriously, look around.
Verizon doesn't do coax, so I have no idea what you're on about there.

Here in The Rest of America, you have one of the local cable companies, or fuck-off. One may take this side of town, and the other takes the other side. But you will never EVER have a choice between them.
We have a choice between 3 ISPs....verizon (Shitty DSL), Comcast, and Frontier....and yeah, I think Comcast and Frontier do run parallel networks....Coaxial / fiber is not like gas, water, and/or high voltage power......it's easy to have a bundle of 200 lines run down a large conduit...thus, its easy to have 200 competing ISPs in the same region....

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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by The Conservative » Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:52 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
There would be, in the middle of a fucking major city, you dipwad. :lol: We're talking about a slightly larger area tho.
Yeah, except that places like the next town over to where I live also have RCN, Verizon and Comcast... so what's your logic on that one?
You're in the middle of fucking New England. Jesus H, do I even have to explain this to you? LOL

EDIT: I have no idea what RCN is, but I'm guessing cable company. So, when you sign up for them, do they re-run a coax line to your house? Are there duplicate coax cables on every power pole? Seriously, look around.
Verizon doesn't do coax, so I have no idea what you're on about there.

Here in The Rest of America, you have one of the local cable companies, or fuck-off. One may take this side of town, and the other takes the other side. But you will never EVER have a choice between them.

This is because people might realize that they’re paying the equivalent of another power bill, for some low-voltage connection to internet exchanges, and nothing more.
Actually, RCN does run a line from the telephone pole to the house because it's fiber, and not coax.

So since I live in Mass, and you live in Butthurt,USA, how does net neutrality truly affect me compared to how it's going to affect you?
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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by Fife » Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:53 am

Zlaxer wrote:We have a choice between 3 ISPs....verizon (Shitty DSL), Comcast, and Frontier....and yeah, I think Comcast and Frontier do run parallel networks....Coaxial / fiber is not like gas, water, and/or high voltage power......it's easy to have a bundle of 200 lines run down a large conduit...thus, its easy to have 200 competing ISPs in the same region....
Watch your ass, citizen -- you are spreading rank Heresy against the Dept of the Internet!

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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by The Conservative » Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:55 am

Zlaxer wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
Yeah, except that places like the next town over to where I live also have RCN, Verizon and Comcast... so what's your logic on that one?
You're in the middle of fucking New England. Jesus H, do I even have to explain this to you? LOL

EDIT: I have no idea what RCN is, but I'm guessing cable company. So, when you sign up for them, do they re-run a coax line to your house? Are there duplicate coax cables on every power pole? Seriously, look around.
Verizon doesn't do coax, so I have no idea what you're on about there.

Here in The Rest of America, you have one of the local cable companies, or fuck-off. One may take this side of town, and the other takes the other side. But you will never EVER have a choice between them.
We have a choice between 3 ISPs....verizon (Shitty DSL), Comcast, and Frontier....and yeah, I think Comcast and Frontier do run parallel networks....Coaxial / fiber is not like gas, water, and/or high voltage power......it's easy to have a bundle of 200 lines run down a large conduit...thus, its easy to have 200 competing ISPs in the same region....
That's sort of the point I was getting at...
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Re: Net Neutrality

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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:58 am

Zlaxer wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
Yeah, except that places like the next town over to where I live also have RCN, Verizon and Comcast... so what's your logic on that one?
You're in the middle of fucking New England. Jesus H, do I even have to explain this to you? LOL

EDIT: I have no idea what RCN is, but I'm guessing cable company. So, when you sign up for them, do they re-run a coax line to your house? Are there duplicate coax cables on every power pole? Seriously, look around.
Verizon doesn't do coax, so I have no idea what you're on about there.

Here in The Rest of America, you have one of the local cable companies, or fuck-off. One may take this side of town, and the other takes the other side. But you will never EVER have a choice between them.
We have a choice between 3 ISPs....verizon (Shitty DSL), Comcast, and Frontier....and yeah, I think Comcast and Frontier do run parallel networks....Coaxial / fiber is not like gas, water, and/or high voltage power......it's easy to have a bundle of 200 lines run down a large conduit...thus, its easy to have 200 competing ISPs in the same region....
Ok.
1 - DSL is a different network, using the PTSN, and is long-obsolete anyway. Not part of the “competition”.

2 - you will never, and I mean never, see the owner of a trunk line sharing their conduit with another network. Let alone digging it up, and installing more lines, to hurt their own monopoly.

3 - yeah, Frontier is a conglomerate buying up old landlines from Verizon and ATT. They aren’t laying a new network. Reading the historical section here is actually a little scary. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontier_Communications
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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:00 pm

15mbps is the same as DSL - outdated and useless. Also only works in nice weather.
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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:01 pm

Jesus Christ. They are calling DSL a competitor to broadband.

Democracy might have been a mistake, guys..

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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:03 pm

Question: what forces the cable company to dig up their lines and add a competitor's line to it that doesn't involve evil regulations?

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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by pineapplemike » Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:09 pm

Are hard lines necessary to provide internet access?