Trump Impeachment

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Re: Trump Impeachment

Post by ssu » Thu May 18, 2017 7:37 am

Martin Hash wrote:Now that my optimism for Trump is gone (not completely), smothering him from actually doing anything is probably a good thing. He did stop Globalization.
How?

With his Goldman Sachs cabinet?

Really, how has he stopped Globalization? Is the US out of NAFTA? And this is a genuine question as I may have missed some legislation or not noticed it in the executive orders (which he critisized Obama of giving).

Minimizing the Economic Burden of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act Pending Repeal
Expediting Environmental Reviews and Approvals for High-Profile Infrastructure Projects
Border Security and Immigration Enforcement Improvements
Enhancing Public Safety in the Interior of the United States
Protecting the Nation From Foreign Terrorist Entry into the United States
Ethics Commitments by Executive Branch Appointees
Reducing Regulation and Controlling Regulatory Costs
Core Principles for Regulating the United States Financial System
Task Force on Crime Reduction and Public Safety
Enforcing Federal Law with Respect to Transnational Criminal Organizations and Preventing International Trafficking
Preventing Violence Against Federal, State, Tribal, and Local Enforcement Officers
Providing an Order of Succession Within the Department of Justice
Establishing Enhanced Collection and Enforcement of Anti-Dumping and Countervailing Duties and Violations of Trade and Customs Law"
Buy American, Hire American
Identifying and Reducing Tax Regulatory Burdens"
Promoting Agriculture and Rural Prosperity in America"
Review of Designations Under the Antiquities Act"
Enforcing Statutory Prohibitions on Federal Control of Education"
Improving Accountability and Whistleblower Protection"
Implementing an America-First Offshore Energy Strategy"
Establishment of Office of Trade and Manufacturing Policy"
Addressing Trade Agreement Violations and Abuses"
Establishment of the American Technology Council"
Promoting Free Speech and Religious Liberty"
Establishment of the Presidential Commission on Election Integrity"
Strengthening the Cybersecurity of Federal Networks and Critical Infrastructure"


I remember the new trade talks already being in trouble before Trump. And from the above have something to do with trade and economic policy, and those that do seem not to stop globalization:

Buy American, Hire American

The "Hire American" portion of the bill targets the H-1B visa program, which allows businesses to hire high-skilled workers from outside the U.S., by putting less emphasis on the lottery system used to determine which companies can sponsor visas. The "Buy American" portion of the order directs agencies to tighten rules that give priority to U.S. companies when hiring contractors or purchasing goods. This would be done by reducing the use of waivers and exceptions to current laws. Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross must submit a review of "Buy American" loopholes within 220 days.

Establishment of Office of Trade and Manufacturing Policy

The order establishes the Office of Trade and Manufacturing Policy, which will advise Trump on policies to increase economic growth and decrease the trade deficit. Leading the new office is Trump appointee and National Trade Council Director Peter Navarro, who said he wants to renegotiate NAFTA. The office will also help implement the "Buy American, Hire American" executive order signed by Trump on April 18.

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But back to the topic.

Impeachment is quite likely sooner or later... simply because of Trump. Any reasonable and capable politician could/would have avoided it, but Trump stupendous ignorance and total lack of judgement in this will make it happen. His incredible actions where he seems to be totally ignorant of there being a thing called obstruction of justice shows just how in the end stupid this will be.

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Re: Trump Impeachment

Post by Zlaxer » Thu May 18, 2017 7:40 am

ssu wrote:His incredible actions where he seems to be totally ignorant of there being a thing called obstruction of justice shows just how in the end stupid this will be.

Your statement is self serving - why even bother to investigate if you already know he obstructed justice?

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Re: Trump Impeachment

Post by Martin Hash » Thu May 18, 2017 7:46 am

There are a lot of Trump-haters & they will beat the Impeachment drum relentlessly.

p.s. I shouldn't even answer ssu's cynical tirade but I will : TPP was a Done Deal before Trump. NAFTA was sacrosanct before Trump.
p.s.s. Fins who want Americans killed to protect them are their own Special Interest.
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Re: Trump Impeachment

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu May 18, 2017 7:48 am

California wrote:
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California wrote: We should all want the GOP and the DNC destroyed

Always vote third party, and at the very least, always vote against the incumbent regardless of party

I write myself in all the time.
I can't. I have to vote for whoever is going to let me keep muh guns

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Re: Trump Impeachment

Post by ssu » Thu May 18, 2017 8:10 am

Zlaxer wrote: Your statement is self serving - why even bother to investigate if you already know he obstructed justice?
Oh, there's going to be investigations... for looong time.

Like Dan Carlin starting a new show on the whole WW2 ...and now we are in the Phony War period.

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Re: Trump Impeachment

Post by ssu » Thu May 18, 2017 8:16 am

Martin Hash wrote:p.s. I shouldn't even answer ssu's cynical tirade but I will : TPP was a Done Deal before Trump. NAFTA was sacrosanct before Trump.
Was it?

And are you out of NAFTA? Or is that a thing that Trump will only know find "actually really difficult" and even... beneficial? With Trump his campaign rhetoric and actions when President differ much. Is China a currency manipulator now officially? No?
Martin Hash wrote:p.s.s. Fins who want Americans killed to protect them are their own Special Interest.
Not many of those. We definately know we are expendable and nobody cares a shit. That's why the total defence.

Not in NATO, remember.

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Re: Trump Impeachment

Post by Zlaxer » Thu May 18, 2017 8:20 am

ssu wrote:
Zlaxer wrote: Your statement is self serving - why even bother to investigate if you already know he obstructed justice?
Oh, there's going to be investigations... for looong time.

Like Dan Carlin starting a new show on the whole WW2 ...and now we are in the Phony War period.

Again - Your statement is self serving. How does you last comment address that? Wait - It doesn't.

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Re: Trump Impeachment

Post by Martin Hash » Thu May 18, 2017 8:30 am

ssu wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:p.s. I shouldn't even answer ssu's cynical tirade but I will : TPP was a Done Deal before Trump. NAFTA was sacrosanct before Trump.
Was it?

And are you out of NAFTA? Or is that a thing that Trump will only know find "actually really difficult" and even... beneficial? With Trump his campaign rhetoric and actions when President differ much. Is China a currency manipulator now officially? No?
Actually, Trump's credibility is so bad right now, he may just be joining TPP on the side because, you know, whatever?
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Re: Trump Impeachment

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu May 18, 2017 8:34 am

ssu wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:p.s. I shouldn't even answer ssu's cynical tirade but I will : TPP was a Done Deal before Trump. NAFTA was sacrosanct before Trump.
Was it?

And are you out of NAFTA? Or is that a thing that Trump will only know find "actually really difficult" and even... beneficial? With Trump his campaign rhetoric and actions when President differ much. Is China a currency manipulator now officially? No?
Martin Hash wrote:p.s.s. Fins who want Americans killed to protect them are their own Special Interest.
Not many of those. We definately know we are expendable and nobody cares a shit. That's why the total defence.

Not in NATO, remember.

Yes. It was. He killed on Day One, though. They got to him somehow since then.

This deep state war is actually getting worrisome

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Re: Trump Impeachment

Post by ssu » Thu May 18, 2017 8:43 am

Martin Hash wrote:Actually, Trump's credibility is so bad right now, he may just be joining TPP on the side because, you know, whatever?
Lol.

Going out of not yet done deals is far easier that deals that have been valid for a long time.

Ask just the Brits.