The Left Does not Reason

[jbird4049]

Yeah, same old same old. Left/Dems/Progs don't get their way and they take violence to the streets.

What? I wrote a long screed attacking, well, the entire mainstream political leadership, and both parties, and the conclusion taken is "Yeah, same old same old. Left/Dems/Progs don't get their way and they take violence to the streets."

Okay, fine.

Can't fight dogma, dude. Almost 5pm in the East, time for a car ride..

Dogma? I'd settle for just responding to what I actually wrote!

[C-Mag]

"liberal like Milo" struck a chord with me..

Is it possible that Left and Right are switching parties again? Is this the beginning of that process?

Why not? I am wondering if we are not seeing a period like when the Whigs collapsed.

@ both

I personally hate Left-Right, Liberal - Conservative tags. They rely on ones own personal understanding of what those terms mean and it just gets into a bunch of semantics.

I see political divides primarily as Collectivist - Monarchial - Liberty minded. For instance John McCain and Rand Paul are in the same party, and both get called Conservative and Right Wing. But the two are almost 180 out on most subjects, McCain is a giant Collectivist all for the Central government consolidating more power and Rand Paul is more Liberty minded.

The traditional political divisions don't serve us very well anymore. We have the media out there calling AntiFa a Leftist group, but really they are for the status quo and very much resemble the KKK of 1865.

[Alexander PhiAlipson]

Too true, Carlus--"Ye shall know them by their fruits." It matters not what they call themselves, nor what we call them, but what they do.

[clubgop]

<citation needed - fever dreams not an acceptable source>

And yet there you go. You talk about troll bait but not a full week after the election you are sucking off the author of a screed in which the conclusion is that rural america needs to forcibly become downtown Detroit or Cleaveland because that will be a better America or something. This talk of civil war you engage in as much as anyone else. But just look at the headlines for comparison of right to left. While we are appointing Neil Gorsuch to the SCOTUS and debating the finer points of a 120 moratorium on travel from 7 nations, you're side is debating whether it is ok to punch those you deem nazis and if setting a campus ablaze cause of speech you dont like. Crazies exist on all spectrums, but

I'll suppose for a moment that you're yelling at the monolithic Left Establishment or whatever, and not directing that towards me... Because clearly, I have nothing to do with whomever you're angry with.

As for this bit...

only one side is letting and excusing those crazies from controlling your narrative.

LAWL

Any of those people committing crimes? Can you name any of these people? Can you name what rally or gathering these pics are from? Hell that first pic is a lib engaging in what passes for satire. Thanks for making my point. I point to news reports and you post an onion article. Real good there.

[clubgop]

<citation needed - fever dreams not an acceptable source>

And yet there you go. You talk about troll bait but not a full week after the election you are sucking off the author of a screed in which the conclusion is that rural america needs to forcibly become downtown Detroit or Cleaveland because that will be a better America or something. This talk of civil war you engage in as much as anyone else. But just look at the headlines for comparison of right to left. While we are appointing Neil Gorsuch to the SCOTUS and debating the finer points of a 120 moratorium on travel from 7 nations, you're side is debating whether it is ok to punch those you deem nazis and if setting a campus ablaze cause of speech you dont like. Crazies exist on all spectrums, but

I'll suppose for a moment that you're yelling at the monolithic Left Establishment or whatever, and not directing that towards me... Because clearly, I have nothing to do with whomever you're angry with.

As for this bit...

only one side is letting and excusing those crazies from controlling your narrative.

LAWL

Random signs from random gatherings vs video from a debate on who is to chair your party.


Checkmate bitch.

[C-Mag]

Any of those people committing crimes? Can you name any of these people? Can you name what rally or gathering these pics are from? Hell that first pic is a lib engaging in what passes for satire. Thanks for making my point. I point to news reports and you post an onion article. Real good there.

It's a good point.
Violence in the streets is violence in the streets.

Take the Patriot Movement that the Bundy's attempted to coopt. First of all the Bundy's have to be pissed right now. Here you have month after month of violence in the streets by a certain segment of the population and few of the perpetrators will be prosecuted and the press is mostly mute on it; we have people out openly calling for assassination of the POTUS, a Military Coup, etc.
Then you have the Bundy's who never in all their time hurt anyone. Caused only minor property damage and the whole bunch is locked up and one of their team was given the Ruby Ridge treatment. Does not look like equal justice under the law.

The Patriot/Liberty community quickly split with the Bundy's and a lot of them openly said this is not how to do things. I'm not really hearing that today. In fact it's the opposite. BHO even came out and said he likes what he sees, didn't disown the violence either.

[clubgop]

Any of those people committing crimes? Can you name any of these people? Can you name what rally or gathering these pics are from? Hell that first pic is a lib engaging in what passes for satire. Thanks for making my point. I point to news reports and you post an onion article. Real good there.

It's a good point.
Violence in the streets is violence in the streets.

Take the Patriot Movement that the Bundy's attempted to coopt. First of all the Bundy's have to be pissed right now. Here you have month after month of violence in the streets by a certain segment of the population and few of the perpetrators will be prosecuted and the press is mostly mute on it; we have people out openly calling for assassination of the POTUS, a Military Coup, etc.
Then you have the Bundy's who never in all their time hurt anyone. Caused only minor property damage and the whole bunch is locked up and one of their team was given the Ruby Ridge treatment. Does not look like equal justice under the law.

The Patriot/Liberty community quickly split with the Bundy's and a lot of them openly said this is not how to do things. I'm not really hearing that today. In fact it's the opposite. BHO even came out and said he likes what he sees, didn't disown the violence either.

All true add to that Mr. Science is engaging in the party switch myth an argument with less scientific basis behind it than Noah's Ark or intelligent design.

[clubgop]

Any of those people committing crimes? Can you name any of these people? Can you name what rally or gathering these pics are from? Hell that first pic is a lib engaging in what passes for satire. Thanks for making my point. I point to news reports and you post an onion article. Real good there.

It's a good point.
Violence in the streets is violence in the streets.

Take the Patriot Movement that the Bundy's attempted to coopt. First of all the Bundy's have to be pissed right now. Here you have month after month of violence in the streets by a certain segment of the population and few of the perpetrators will be prosecuted and the press is mostly mute on it; we have people out openly calling for assassination of the POTUS, a Military Coup, etc.
Then you have the Bundy's who never in all their time hurt anyone. Caused only minor property damage and the whole bunch is locked up and one of their team was given the Ruby Ridge treatment. Does not look like equal justice under the law.

The Patriot/Liberty community quickly split with the Bundy's and a lot of them openly said this is not how to do things. I'm not really hearing that today. In fact it's the opposite. BHO even came out and said he likes what he sees, didn't disown the violence either.

They just should admit we are better at this than they are. I dont even have to post pics. I say trigglypuff, everyone knows who that is, I say Aids Skrillex, everyone knows, same with Carl the Cuck. Who are these people? Porkdude? Teabagging grandma?

[C-Mag]

"liberal like Milo" struck a chord with me..

Is it possible that Left and Right are switching parties again? Is this the beginning of that process?

Why not? I am wondering if we are not seeing a period like when the Whigs collapsed.

Can someone lay out the party switch theory.

[JohnDonne]

"liberal like Milo" struck a chord with me..

Is it possible that Left and Right are switching parties again? Is this the beginning of that process?

Why not? I am wondering if we are not seeing a period like when the Whigs collapsed.

Can someone lay out the party switch theory.

In the 1860s and 70s Republicans and Democrats vied for the new western states. The republican federal expansions were good for big businesses like banks and railroads but they left the farmers out west with little. Both parties wished to seize the new voting bloc, so they tried to appeal to the westerners through federally funded social programs and benefits. The Democrats stuck with this strategy, while republicans slowly went counter for hands off government. Republicans essentially remained a party of big business though, because once all the infrastructure was finished big businesses didn't want big government anymore. In the 1930s the Republican position was hardened by the opposition to the New Deal.