Climate Denier Hard To Refute

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Re: Climate Denier Hard To Refute

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:52 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:The thing that really dispelled a lot of the hysteria for me was when I got interested in the paleolithic and learned what real climate change looks like.

Humans have already survived a climate change event none of us really can imagine. One that makes even the ridiculous projections of the climate change alarmists look tame by comparison.
Over what timeframe.
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Re: Climate Denier Hard To Refute

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:53 am

Martin Hash wrote:
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Martin Hash wrote: Your nihilist attitude is not unjustified BUT there probably is no catastrophic Climate Change.

Which do you think will happen first, the U.S. experiencing a civil war between The Right & The Left, or Climate Change?
Climate change isn't an event, it's a process, and it's already started. Have you not noticed that your locale breaks heat records every single year (regardless of where you live). The growing season has already shifted, rain and snowfall amounts have changed, and storms are much stronger than they used to be.

This is no longer a question of "if". Ask your older friends about the weather, and you will get (maybe) 1 saying it's not different, right before he launches into a tirade about "liberals".
Dude, R U actually asking me to confirm anecdotal evidence?!

p.s. In fact, the PNW, where I live, has had greater Climate Changes than these during the late 1980s up to about 2000.
p.p.s. If you have ANY kind of scientific brain at all, you know better than to let your personal experience dictate the timeframe. My god, man, watch that last video I posted. The guy slam-dunks it.
p.p.p.s. Of course, there's Climate Change! Wouldn't you be surprised if there wasn't given Earth's history?
It's better to use anecdotal evidence in this issue, than relay scientific data which will instantly be refuted and cat-called because 'liberals'.
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Re: Climate Denier Hard To Refute

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:55 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:The thing that really dispelled a lot of the hysteria for me was when I got interested in the paleolithic and learned what real climate change looks like.

Humans have already survived a climate change event none of us really can imagine. One that makes even the ridiculous projections of the climate change alarmists look tame by comparison.
Over what timeframe.

It was over a few decades, I think. Younger Dryas.

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Re: Climate Denier Hard To Refute

Post by Martin Hash » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:55 am

???
You may need to backtrack on this one, Grumps, formulate a more defensible position. There's something between, "OMG, we're all gonna die!" and "Burn that coal, baby, burn."
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Re: Climate Denier Hard To Refute

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:01 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:The thing that really dispelled a lot of the hysteria for me was when I got interested in the paleolithic and learned what real climate change looks like.

Humans have already survived a climate change event none of us really can imagine. One that makes even the ridiculous projections of the climate change alarmists look tame by comparison.
Over what timeframe.

It was over a few decades, I think. Younger Dryas.
I'm actually pretty convinced that was an asteroid impact - as I know you've heard too, or you'd have no fucking clue what the Younger Dryas is. :lol:
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Re: Climate Denier Hard To Refute

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:02 am

Martin Hash wrote:???
You may need to backtrack on this one, Grumps, formulate a more defensible position. There's something between, "OMG, we're all gonna die!" and "Burn that coal, baby, burn."
...which is exactly where I'm at - "fuck it"
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Re: Climate Denier Hard To Refute

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:12 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Over what timeframe.

It was over a few decades, I think. Younger Dryas.
I'm actually pretty convinced that was an asteroid impact - as I know you've heard too, or you'd have no fucking clue what the Younger Dryas is. :lol:

Fresh water from melting glaciers flooded into the Atlantic, causing the circulation of warm water to shut down. This plunged North America and Europe back into ice age temps for a few centuries. The climate change was extremely rapid, with glaciers covering much of Northern Europe again in short order, driving humans back southward.

It reduced carrying capacity of much of the land as well, possibly being the instigating factor for agricultural revolution in the Levant.

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Re: Climate Denier Hard To Refute

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:17 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:

It was over a few decades, I think. Younger Dryas.
I'm actually pretty convinced that was an asteroid impact - as I know you've heard too, or you'd have no fucking clue what the Younger Dryas is. :lol:

Fresh water from melting glaciers flooded into the Atlantic, causing the circulation of warm water to shut down. This plunged North America and Europe back into ice age temps for a few centuries. The climate change was extremely rapid, with glaciers covering much of Northern Europe again in short order, driving humans back southward.

It reduced carrying capacity of much of the land as well, possibly being the instigating factor for agricultural revolution in the Levant.
Regardless of the cause, do you think that our modern society would survive something like that?

It's a lot easier to feed a small tribe than run a global economy, during a massive disruption, but I'm sure you've worked that out on your porch, right?
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Re: Climate Denier Hard To Refute

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:46 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
I'm actually pretty convinced that was an asteroid impact - as I know you've heard too, or you'd have no fucking clue what the Younger Dryas is. :lol:

Fresh water from melting glaciers flooded into the Atlantic, causing the circulation of warm water to shut down. This plunged North America and Europe back into ice age temps for a few centuries. The climate change was extremely rapid, with glaciers covering much of Northern Europe again in short order, driving humans back southward.

It reduced carrying capacity of much of the land as well, possibly being the instigating factor for agricultural revolution in the Levant.
Regardless of the cause, do you think that our modern society would survive something like that?

It's a lot easier to feed a small tribe than run a global economy, during a massive disruption, but I'm sure you've worked that out on your porch, right?

1. Yes.

2. At worst, human caused climate change is no nearly as drastic as that.

3. Global cooling is far worse than global warming.

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Re: Climate Denier Hard To Refute

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:26 pm

You realize that you're talking about a mass extinction event, right?
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