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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Kazmyr » Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:17 pm

Smitty-48 wrote: lol. Told you the churchy Temperance Ladies would be after you. You're not allowed to be hedonist in America. Well, unless you're rich that is.
Nothing wrong with some hedonism. Everyone's got a vice.

The "unless your rich" part - well yeah, that's full-throttle hedonism. Or at least that's what the TV tells my wife.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by apeman » Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:17 pm

Since I shed my nihilistic beliefs, and I swear to you this is true, I have drawn so many more people towards me that it looks like magic.

Easy to make fun of me here, but now that I act like everything I do matters, really matters, it has changed my life for the best.

My life has never been so full.

Not kidding.

I put myself out here and its easy to make fun of me, but I do it because it's true, and maybe it makes a difference to you

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:23 pm

Kazmyr wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote: lol. Told you the churchy Temperance Ladies would be after you. You're not allowed to be hedonist in America. Well, unless you're rich that is.
Nothing wrong with some hedonism. Everyone's got a vice.

The "unless your rich" part - well yeah, that's full-throttle hedonism. Or at least that's what the TV tells my wife.
Well the thing is you probably interpret most of the rich people as being "driven", but I think the reality is for most of these multi-millionaires and billionaires, is that they are nihlistic hedonists, but extreme high efficiency work simply takes the place of meaning, and in the end amassing wealth as a marker of their status, simply gives them pleasure, but it is none the less a vice, it's simply happens to be a very profitable one.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:23 pm

apeman wrote:Since I shed my nihilistic beliefs, and I swear to you this is true, I have drawn so many more people towards me that it looks like magic.

Easy to make fun of me here, but now that I act like everything I do matters, really matters, it has changed my life for the best.

My life has never been so full.

Not kidding.

I put myself out here and its easy to make fun of me, but I do it because it's true, and maybe it makes a difference to you
It does. I notice that you generally take the time to make a coherent point, or a good joke, and generally don't shit-post.

I believe that what I do matters to the people around me, never questioned that. I tend to be seen as overly earnest, in person - something that's made me a bit jaded over the years, I'm sure.

I'll have time for these "friends" in a couple of months, but I've been a shut-in for quite some time now. Really looking forward to doing things again :lol:
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:23 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
I have no doubt that, in my final moments, my mind will be shrieking at the injustice and mourning my lost time and experiences. I've faced death before, and know that feeling well.

The human mind can never accept non-existence. It goes against our most fundamental nature. Yet, we must put thoughts of it aside, and normalize our reality, for daily life to be tolerable.

The fact of so many people dying with regrets indicates you are full of poop on this one.
My point is that EVERYONE dies with regrets - or at least the feeling of regrets. Mother Teresa had regret, shame, terror, and existential dread at the end, don't kid yourself. And, of course, this will depend largely on the circumstances of death - sudden shock, lingering illness, immediate surroundings, etc. No amount of self-righteousness will ever change that.

And moments later, a decaying lump of cells or ashes. What matters then?

If you want to be remembered, you can achieve that for up to a lifetime, and then even that is gone. If you want to have some sort of grand impact, the reigning champ is Genghis Khan, and you've got a hell of a lot of work to catch up to him.

All that you've touched, seen, felt, and done will be gone in the blink of a cosmic eye. Quail in fear, or simply live for Now. Your call, and no business of mine.

I sincerely doubt that everybody dies with regrets. What's more, I have come to believe it's not really even all that difficult to lead a good, purposeful life. What holds us back is our addiction to negative emotions and our attachments to physical possessions, comforts, and pleasures. It's not even a secret how to do this. People have been doing it throughout history. We have Christian saints, pagan stoics, the Chinese sages, and many more examples throughout the world.

Your strategy guarantees that you will die with regrets, and therefore have to some degree mislived your life. Even if your regrets were for the wrong things -- hedonist pleasures, more money, etc. -- you still will have mislived based on nothing more than your obvious lack of virtue leading up to your death.

An old man laying on his deathbed with regrets for not having lived a better life is sort of akin to that middle aged man who goes out to the clubs all the time and acts like he's in his twenties (indeed the latter leads to the former, I suspect). Something is unseemly about it even as most of us have to fight (to some degree) the impulse to become that guy.

You are headed into your forties soon where you will have to confront all these things. I hold out hope for you.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:26 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:

The fact of so many people dying with regrets indicates you are full of poop on this one.
My point is that EVERYONE dies with regrets - or at least the feeling of regrets. Mother Teresa had regret, shame, terror, and existential dread at the end, don't kid yourself. And, of course, this will depend largely on the circumstances of death - sudden shock, lingering illness, immediate surroundings, etc. No amount of self-righteousness will ever change that.

And moments later, a decaying lump of cells or ashes. What matters then?

If you want to be remembered, you can achieve that for up to a lifetime, and then even that is gone. If you want to have some sort of grand impact, the reigning champ is Genghis Khan, and you've got a hell of a lot of work to catch up to him.

All that you've touched, seen, felt, and done will be gone in the blink of a cosmic eye. Quail in fear, or simply live for Now. Your call, and no business of mine.

I sincerely doubt that everybody dies with regrets. What's more, I have come to believe it's not really even all that difficult to lead a good, purposeful life. What holds us back is our addiction to negative emotions and our attachments to physical possessions, comforts, and pleasures. It's not even a secret how to do this. People have been doing it throughout history. We have Christian saints, pagan stoics, the Chinese sages, and many more examples throughout the world.

Your strategy guarantees that you will die with regrets, and therefore have to some degree mislived your life. Even if your regrets were for the wrong things -- hedonist pleasures, more money, etc. -- you still will have mislived based on nothing more than your obvious lack of virtue leading up to your death.

You are headed into your forties soon where you will have to confront all these things. I hold out hope for you.
Oh, make no mistake. I live the life of a dutiful monk, and have for years now. Family uber alles, and such. My karma is strong.

Whatever you think my life is, you're probably wrong. I serve those around me, I just don't see any larger "purpose" to existence.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:27 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
My point is that EVERYONE dies with regrets - or at least the feeling of regrets. Mother Teresa had regret, shame, terror, and existential dread at the end, don't kid yourself. And, of course, this will depend largely on the circumstances of death - sudden shock, lingering illness, immediate surroundings, etc. No amount of self-righteousness will ever change that.

And moments later, a decaying lump of cells or ashes. What matters then?

If you want to be remembered, you can achieve that for up to a lifetime, and then even that is gone. If you want to have some sort of grand impact, the reigning champ is Genghis Khan, and you've got a hell of a lot of work to catch up to him.

All that you've touched, seen, felt, and done will be gone in the blink of a cosmic eye. Quail in fear, or simply live for Now. Your call, and no business of mine.

I sincerely doubt that everybody dies with regrets. What's more, I have come to believe it's not really even all that difficult to lead a good, purposeful life. What holds us back is our addiction to negative emotions and our attachments to physical possessions, comforts, and pleasures. It's not even a secret how to do this. People have been doing it throughout history. We have Christian saints, pagan stoics, the Chinese sages, and many more examples throughout the world.

Your strategy guarantees that you will die with regrets, and therefore have to some degree mislived your life. Even if your regrets were for the wrong things -- hedonist pleasures, more money, etc. -- you still will have mislived based on nothing more than your obvious lack of virtue leading up to your death.

You are headed into your forties soon where you will have to confront all these things. I hold out hope for you.
Oh, make no mistake. I live the life of a dutiful monk, and have for years now. Family uber alles, and such. My karma is strong.

Whatever you think my life is, you're probably wrong. I serve those around me, I just don't see any larger "purpose" to existence.

Even that can bring you unhappiness. Your family can be taken away from you. Then what? That's how a lot of men end up eating buckshot in the garage.

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:28 pm

apeman wrote:I act like everything I do matters, really matters, it has changed my life for the best.

My life has never been so full.
That sounds a whole lot like embracing the value of your own will in creating the meaning of your actions.

Very Nietzsche.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:30 pm

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
apeman wrote:I act like everything I do matters, really matters, it has changed my life for the best.

My life has never been so full.
That sounds a whole lot like embracing the value of your own will in creating the meaning of your actions.

Very Nietzsche.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:31 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:

I sincerely doubt that everybody dies with regrets. What's more, I have come to believe it's not really even all that difficult to lead a good, purposeful life. What holds us back is our addiction to negative emotions and our attachments to physical possessions, comforts, and pleasures. It's not even a secret how to do this. People have been doing it throughout history. We have Christian saints, pagan stoics, the Chinese sages, and many more examples throughout the world.

Your strategy guarantees that you will die with regrets, and therefore have to some degree mislived your life. Even if your regrets were for the wrong things -- hedonist pleasures, more money, etc. -- you still will have mislived based on nothing more than your obvious lack of virtue leading up to your death.

You are headed into your forties soon where you will have to confront all these things. I hold out hope for you.
Oh, make no mistake. I live the life of a dutiful monk, and have for years now. Family uber alles, and such. My karma is strong.

Whatever you think my life is, you're probably wrong. I serve those around me, I just don't see any larger "purpose" to existence.

Even that can bring you unhappiness. Your family can be taken away from you. Then what? That's how a lot of men end up eating buckshot in the garage.
That is exactly the only thing that would make me eat buckshot.

That, and the final stages of a gruesome terminal illness.
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