THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Post by StCapps » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:33 pm

Martin Hash wrote:NN was pushback against Crony Capitalism.
That's what the pitch was, but Obama's NN actually further entrenched Crony Capitalism via the FCC. False advertising.
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Post by StCapps » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:34 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:I am trying to figure out the cause of your notable decline in mental acuity and ability to process simple statements.
Projecting your own issues on me.
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Post by StCapps » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:35 pm

The concept of Net Neutrality has bipartisan support, Obama's Net Neutrality does not, it's Fake Net Neutrality, Trump and the Republicans know it.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:37 pm

So an order that prohibited monopolies from using monopoly status to create barriers to entry for any competitors, and to fuck with free markets in general.. that's crony capitalism.

But putting a guy connected to those same monopolies in charge of the FCC to explicitly write a counter order that says for the first time in a century that it's okay for monopolies to use monopoly powers to create barriers to entry.. that's not crony capitalism. Nor was it crony capitalism for him to create an unconstitutional order that prohibits states from regulating their own broadband markets accordingly, even though those same corporations bribed state legislatures to regulate those markets ten years ago to criminalize municipal broadband that created their monopoly status in the first place (and took it all the way to the Supreme Court arguing that states have the right to regulate broadband in that way).

Genius, capps. Just fucking genius.

I am glad you belong to Canada. We have enough morons.
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Post by StCapps » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:38 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:So an order that prohibited monopolies from using monopoly status to create barriers to entry for any competitors, and to fuck with free markets in general.. that's crony capitalism.
Obama's Net Neutrality didn't prohibit monopolies, it further entrenched them. You are talking out of your ass.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:39 pm

StCapps wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:So an order that prohibited monopolies from using monopoly status to create barriers to entry for any competitors, and to fuck with free markets in general.. that's crony capitalism.
It didn't prohibit monopolies, it further entrenched them.

Don't try to straw man you little shit.

The net neutrality order was never intended to prohibit monopolies. Monopolies are not criminal in the United States. Using monopoly status to create barriers to entry can trigger regulatory actions, however, which is what caused the net neutrality order. We do not allow monopolies to do that. Or, we didn't, until a little corporate crony took over the FCC..

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Post by StCapps » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:43 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
StCapps wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:So an order that prohibited monopolies from using monopoly status to create barriers to entry for any competitors, and to fuck with free markets in general.. that's crony capitalism.
It didn't prohibit monopolies, it further entrenched them.

Don't try to straw man you little shit.

The net neutrality order was never intended to prohibit monopolies. Monopolies are not criminal in the United States. Using monopoly status to create barriers to entry can trigger regulatory actions, however, which is what caused the net neutrality order. We do not allow monopolies to do that. Or, we didn't, until a little corporate crony took over the FCC..
Obama's Net Neutrality gave control to the FCC, it didn't prohibit using monopoly status to create barriers to entry, the FCC was never out to quash monopolies via regulation, to think they would is naive, they are out to censor material they find offensive and support crony capitalism. It's the FCC, look at what they have done and are doing to network TV and radio, you want them to do that for the internet, well that's insane. Giving the FCC the power to regulate isn't going to lead to more competition among ISPs, it leads to less.

If you want real Net Neutrality, supporting something called "Net Neutrality" that is actually the opposite of Net Neutrality, is a pretty shitty way to get there. Dumping the bullshit law and starting from scratch with the real mccoy, that sounds like a far better plan to me. It's Orwellian Doublespeak, like the "Affordable Care Act", you just can't see it because you like the sound of the label too much and it blinds you in the case of "Net Neutrality".

Basically if someone called a pile of dogshit "Net Neutrality", you'd think it curbs monopolistic practices, based on your reaction to Obama's Net Neutrality getting axed, you're just mad someone finally picked up the dogshit and are acting like it's the end of the internet, Sad.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:04 pm

StCapps wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
StCapps wrote:It didn't prohibit monopolies, it further entrenched them.

Don't try to straw man you little shit.

The net neutrality order was never intended to prohibit monopolies. Monopolies are not criminal in the United States. Using monopoly status to create barriers to entry can trigger regulatory actions, however, which is what caused the net neutrality order. We do not allow monopolies to do that. Or, we didn't, until a little corporate crony took over the FCC..
Obama's Net Neutrality gave control to the FCC, it didn't prohibit using monopoly status to create barriers to entry, the FCC was never out to quash monopolies via regulation, to think they would is naive, they are out to censor material they find offensive and support crony capitalism. It's the FCC, look at what they have done and are doing to network TV and radio, you want them to do that for the internet, well that's insane. Giving the FCC the power to regulate isn't going to lead to more competition among ISPs, it leads to less.

If you want real Net Neutrality, supporting something called "Net Neutrality" that is actually the opposite of Net Neutrality, is a pretty shitty way to get there. Dumping the bullshit law and starting from scratch with the real mccoy, that sounds like a far better plan to me. It's Orwellian Doublespeak, like the "Affordable Care Act", you just can't see it because you like the sound of the label too much and it blinds you in the case of "Net Neutrality".

Basically if someone called a pile of dogshit "Net Neutrality", you'd think it curbs monopolistic practices, based on your reaction to Obama's Net Neutrality getting axed, you're just mad someone finally picked up the dogshit and are acting like it's the end of the internet, Sad.

You have no idea what you are even talking about. Are you on meth or something? Seriously.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:04 pm

The alt-right can read the writing on the wall.

https://altright.com/2018/01/07/cuckmander-in-chief/
It’s much more likely that he will continue to divert whatever is left of MAGA boomer enthusiasm into nakedly plutocratic and neocon objectives. More importantly, whatever success he enjoys right now will be temporary, because by doing the bidding of the globalists, Trump is doing nothing to alleviate the causes of the distress which propelled him to office in the first place.
They at least got that part correct.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:11 pm

The way I see it, this neocon agenda he has embraced is precisely the reason the GOP was almost wiped out. It's a huge mistake to embrace any of this. The tax cuts, the deregulation of monopolies, the posturing over Iran and even the Jerusalem embassy stuff were all huge neocon detractions that only serve to put democrats back in power.

Trade. Immigration.

That's what put him in office. Insomuch as he turns his back on those things, the democrats inch closer to regaining power, and when they do regain control of the legislative and executive branches again, they will NEVER allow this to happen again. You can bet your asses they will flood America with so many foreigners that there will be no republican party ever more. It will become a one-party state and they will do anything to make that happen as quickly as possible, laws and your futures be damned.