THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:19 am

TheReal_ND wrote:Have I ever said anything about Bannon? I don't recall ever doing so. You must be projecting because you love the narrative the book has pitched you. In before "muh alt-right." Clearly the media has you believing Bannon was ever alt-right.

Now that I think of it I do recall posting about how Bannon played WoW for Goldman Sacchs.

And anyway, Trump has done very well on immigration so far. I don't feel like I have lost any wager at all yet. Granted, it's only a step in the right direction but so far I'm looking at a good trajectory. Not even black pilled. Oh that must be it. I'm supposed to be black pilled about Bannon. Well no. Not at all. And the idea of him contesting incumbents was good and all those things are in motion already so we will see how it pans out.
Meh, I don't love the narrative of crazy Trump, I don't think Trump is crazy, and I'm certainly not opposed to him jettisoning the Alt Right and just getting back to being run o' the mill GOP, that's fine by me, and a smart move, Trump doesn't need the Alt Right populism anymore, he has control of the party now, so he can just go back to being the Reaganite Neoconservative he always was.

So if you're happy, I'm happy, I was simply under the impression, based on two years of you autistic screeching about it, that you had a more expansive idea of what Trump was going to do, than simply cutting a deal with Democrats on DACA in order to get an installment of funding for a concrete wall.

I don't actually have any complaints about Trump, he got the tax cuts done, he got rid of that net leftality bullshit, he's pumping up the equity market, he's been strong on NATO, he's been strong on PACOM, he's a Nat-Sec hawk, Trump is pretty much the Gipper 2.0 right now.
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Post by The Conservative » Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:28 am

StCapps wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
StCapps wrote:Look in the mirror. Just because he's not a politician doesn't mean the establishment is going to hate him once he runs, "because he can't be controlled", non-politicians are easier to control because they don't have as lengthy a track record of dug in policy positions, that isn't why they hated Trump.
Ronald Regan.

The establishment hated him. The people loved him.
The Rock isn't going to be Reagan. He's going to be Obama 2.0, on steroids. You wish the establishment would hate The Rock, because you want a wave of anti-establishment presidents to be the new norm, but that is wishful thinking. Just because he isn't a politician doesn't mean the establishment will hate him, that's not why they hated Trump. Obama was inexperienced as fuck, the media and establishment loved him, you over-estimate the establishments love of experienced politicians over political neophytes just because they hate Trump. If the establishment actually did love experience as much as you seem to think, then they would have supported McCain over Obama in 2008, yet they didn't.
The Rock is more Conservative that Socialist... He's not going to be what you think he is.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:30 am

Like, if there is a "narrative" to the book for me, it's not so much that Trump is crazy, the overriding impression is that he had surrounded himself with a bunch of amateurs, wingnuts and ratfucks, and that he'd be well advised to just come home to the GOP Establishment and get some professionals to run shit for him, which he has been doing for awhile now.
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Post by StCapps » Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:32 am

The Conservative wrote:The Rock is more Conservative that Socialist... He's not going to be what you think he is.
He can hijack either party and run on whatever he wants, it doesn't matter, he'll win if he runs.

The camera fucking loves him.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:33 am

“Donald Trump, Jr. is both a patriot and a good man. He has been relentless in his advocacy for his father and the agenda that has helped turn our country around.

“My support is also unwavering for the president and his agenda — as I have shown daily in my national radio broadcasts, on the pages of Breitbart News and in speeches and appearances from Tokyo and Hong Kong to Arizona and Alabama. President Trump was the only candidate that could have taken on and defeated the Clinton apparatus. I am the only person to date to conduct a global effort to preach the message of Trump and Trumpism; and remain ready to stand in the breach for this president’s efforts to make America great again.

“My comments about the meeting with Russian nationals came from my life experiences as a Naval officer stationed aboard a destroyer whose main mission was to hunt Soviet submarines to my time at the Pentagon during the Reagan years when our focus was the defeat of ‘the evil empire’ and to making films about Reagan’s war against the Soviets and Hillary Clinton’s involvement in selling uranium to them.

“My comments were aimed at Paul Manafort, a seasoned campaign professional with experience and knowledge of how the Russians operate. He should have known they are duplicitous, cunning and not our friends. To reiterate, those comments were not aimed at Don Jr.

“Everything I have to say about the ridiculous nature of the Russian ‘collusion’ investigation I said on my 60 Minutes interview. There was no collusion and the investigation is a witch hunt.

“I regret that my delay in responding to the inaccurate reporting regarding Don Jr has diverted attention from the president’s historical accomplishments in the first year of his presidency.”

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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:42 am

Seems like Bannon is showing his neck, which, obviously he can't fight city hall, but I don't buy that he wasn't trashing Don jr, oh he was, and frankly, it was Don jr and his lawyer who were meeting with the Russians, it wasn't really Manafort making that happen, the Russians didn't need Manafort as a go between, they already had contacts with the Trump Org, Trump has been trying to get a Trump Tower built in Moscow for years now.

It's nonsense to say that the Trump Org needs Manafort to tell them about the Russians, Trump has been dealing the Russians back to the 80', when they were the Soviets, Trump knows his way around Russia, he doesn't need Manafort.

If anything, Trump is the expert on navigating the Russian sphere, not Manafort.
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Post by StCapps » Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:11 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
“Donald Trump, Jr. is both a patriot and a good man. He has been relentless in his advocacy for his father and the agenda that has helped turn our country around.

“My support is also unwavering for the president and his agenda — as I have shown daily in my national radio broadcasts, on the pages of Breitbart News and in speeches and appearances from Tokyo and Hong Kong to Arizona and Alabama. President Trump was the only candidate that could have taken on and defeated the Clinton apparatus. I am the only person to date to conduct a global effort to preach the message of Trump and Trumpism; and remain ready to stand in the breach for this president’s efforts to make America great again.

“My comments about the meeting with Russian nationals came from my life experiences as a Naval officer stationed aboard a destroyer whose main mission was to hunt Soviet submarines to my time at the Pentagon during the Reagan years when our focus was the defeat of ‘the evil empire’ and to making films about Reagan’s war against the Soviets and Hillary Clinton’s involvement in selling uranium to them.

“My comments were aimed at Paul Manafort, a seasoned campaign professional with experience and knowledge of how the Russians operate. He should have known they are duplicitous, cunning and not our friends. To reiterate, those comments were not aimed at Don Jr.

“Everything I have to say about the ridiculous nature of the Russian ‘collusion’ investigation I said on my 60 Minutes interview. There was no collusion and the investigation is a witch hunt.

“I regret that my delay in responding to the inaccurate reporting regarding Don Jr has diverted attention from the president’s historical accomplishments in the first year of his presidency.”
They call that backpeddling.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:17 pm

Not just backpedalling, but trying to revise, because as I said, I don't think Wolff is lying or making this stuff up, I think the people in the White House said the things he reports that they said, and Bannon was trashing everybody, the Trump family most of all.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:30 pm

Legitimizes Bannons Story, and throws the rest of the White House under the bus. He’s good.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:38 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:Legitimizes Bannons Story, and throws the rest of the White House under the bus. He’s good.
Bannon is getting outplayed by Trump on this one, and you think Trump played it poorly, so that just goes to show you're bias against Trump prevents you from seeing straight.
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