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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:00 am

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Speaker to Animals wrote:You best figure out what your purpose is in life or you risk dying at the end of a mislived life.
My purpose is to support my kids. Other than that, I don't have one, and never needed one.

A life cannot be "mis-lived", unless there's an objective or goal in mind for it. You either look back and think "yeah that was worth it", or you don't. I find it much more likely that I would be miserable at the end having NOT enjoyed myself as much as possible.
It absolutely can be mislived. Pray you don't realize this in your last moments.

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Kazmyr » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:03 am

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I need some context or something on this meme.
Do you even MHF bro?

EDIT: From about 7:00 - 12:00 in that video is where AIDS Skrillex puts in the work.

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by DBTrek » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:04 am

An 18 minute video.
That's certainly more useful than posting the relevant 4 seconds.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:06 am

Kazmyr wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote: I'm not advocating hedonism, and this entire discussion seems to be derailed by several of you extrapolating that from an objective view of the universe. Nihilism simply means that there's no 'overriding purpose' to life. There is no boogyman in the sky judging you, and you have only yourself to answer to. If you choose to take that off into Candyland, and rape/loot/steal at will, then you'll pay consequences in a society. That's life, and that's your choice. Removing the blinders of dogma does not make you free of reality.

And.. I'm trying not to leap to conclusions here, but are you guys actually advocating that this view should be suppressed for "The Greater Good"? And then pointing at it as a possible cause for totalitarianism?
So your point is, what, there's just no 'overriding purpose' to life and you only answer to yourself? To answer to yourself means, whatever you, internally believe, is your guiding principles, correct? How is that not self-indulgence, and thus, hedonism?

Perhaps this is an issue of definitions. Hedonism, I believe, invokes a complete selfishness, with no regard for anyone else - sociopathy.
And take this to an end - there is no 'overriding purpose' to life. So why should anyone be worried about the mores and rules of society? They don't matter in the end.
Precisely for the reason you give below - you'll be punished for it. Not only by the State, which would be a last resort, but your own conscience. The human mind does not like to see itself as an abuser.
If you go your Candyland route, so what if, after your bender of rape and murder, society deems you a complete, hopeless menace you get the needle. If you truly buy into nihilism, so fucking what? You die. Was gonna happen anyway. The victims? They have 'justice' served with your death, but now lay in an emotional wasteland, breeding the same contempt for others that was shown to them.

Do you want nihilism for all? Or just for a few who are 'smart enough' to 'live within the reality of a society' (that doesn't matter)?
Nihilism, by its very nature, precludes any sort of "for all" ideology. Believe what you want, no concern of mine. But as a human, I feel that I have a duty to help maximize the happiness of my fellow man, so I would strongly advocate at least sharing the idea.

And I don't think any of us are advocating for a totalitarian suppression of this idea. It's advocating of the realization of the individual that they must personally face the suffering that exists (the bitter end) in order to make the meaning out of the world. You'll never eradicate nihilism, but you can 'vaccinate' someone against it.

Simplistically getting all 'space boogeyman' about it isn't giving it a fair shake - it's more than saying God exists or doesn't exist. God is the mythologization of the ideal, he way to seek purpose. Stop worrying about the ultimate destination; but instead worry about the direction the ideal of the divine points you in.
Indeed. I have no qualms with anyone believing in any sort of mystical thing. I have a real problem with those that attempt constantly, throughout our history, to impose their belief on others.

My beef is not with God. It's with religion.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:11 am

Kazmyr wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
I need some context or something on this meme.
Do you even MHF bro?

EDIT: From about 7:00 - 12:00 in that video is where AIDS Skrillex puts in the work.


Never mind. I cannot tolerate morons screaming at each other. My life is too short. ;)
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by apeman » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:13 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:Never mind. I cannot tolerate morons screaming at each other. My life is too short. ;)
IF that was even remotely true you would not have 7000 post here in this dumpster fire

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by DBTrek » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:13 am

apeman wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Never mind. I cannot tolerate morons screaming at each other. My life is too short. ;)
IF that was even remotely true you would not have 7000 post here in this dumpster fire

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:14 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:You best figure out what your purpose is in life or you risk dying at the end of a mislived life.
My purpose is to support my kids. Other than that, I don't have one, and never needed one.

A life cannot be "mis-lived", unless there's an objective or goal in mind for it. You either look back and think "yeah that was worth it", or you don't. I find it much more likely that I would be miserable at the end having NOT enjoyed myself as much as possible.
It absolutely can be mislived. Pray you don't realize this in your last moments.
I have no doubt that, in my final moments, my mind will be shrieking at the injustice and mourning my lost time and experiences. I've faced death before, and know that feeling well.

The human mind can never accept non-existence. It goes against our most fundamental nature. Yet, we must put thoughts of it aside, and normalize our reality, for daily life to be tolerable.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:15 am

apeman wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Never mind. I cannot tolerate morons screaming at each other. My life is too short. ;)
IF that was even remotely true you would not have 7000 post here in this dumpster fire
:lol:

The difference here is that my words have equal weight to yours, and will be clearly heard by anyone interested. I can't cut you off and scream to the crowd, or physically stop you from speaking.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:15 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
My purpose is to support my kids. Other than that, I don't have one, and never needed one.

A life cannot be "mis-lived", unless there's an objective or goal in mind for it. You either look back and think "yeah that was worth it", or you don't. I find it much more likely that I would be miserable at the end having NOT enjoyed myself as much as possible.
It absolutely can be mislived. Pray you don't realize this in your last moments.
I have no doubt that, in my final moments, my mind will be shrieking at the injustice and mourning my lost time and experiences. I've faced death before, and know that feeling well.

The human mind can never accept non-existence. It goes against our most fundamental nature. Yet, we must put thoughts of it aside, and normalize our reality, for daily life to be tolerable.

The fact of so many people dying with regrets indicates you are full of poop on this one.