THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:36 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
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Smitty-48 wrote:See, Trump is strawmanning right now, he's saying the author is claiming he is unfit, that the book is a lie, but that's not the case, the author is simply reporting that other people said that Trump is unfit, Spicer, Conway, Bannon, Javanka etc, the author never makes an assertion about it either way.

Wolff is totally covered, Trump has zero chance of winning anything in court here, taking it to court is clearly just a smokescreen.
Ironically, the only thing that he accomplished was making the book a global best-seller.
Well that's the "5D chess" part, that's what the book says too, Trump is just in this for the publicity, so long as he is the center of attention, he's getting what he wants, but in terms of "5D chess" in a political sense, not much of that going on at all, he's just an empty vessel, into which various entrenched interests can insert their agenda, which is all President's really, Trump is just that on steroids.
He certainly seems to be a far better media troll than a dealmaker so far, and he's quite low on hard policy positions, blank vessel indeed. He's not an ideologue, he's quite flexible when it comes to policy.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by DBTrek » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:37 pm

Low on “policy positions”?

I think you’re low on information positions.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:39 pm

DBTrek wrote:Low on “policy positions”?

I think you’re low on information positions.
He takes a stand on as little issues as possible and remains deliberately vague, to provide for future flexibility. The few issues Trump does take a stand on, he is no policy wonk on, or if he secretly is, he won't tell the public for political gain.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:40 pm

See, Trump is the one who invited Michael Wolff into the fold, Trump was meeting with Wolff and telling Wolff that Trump was going to bring him along for the ride, before the campaign even started, and Trump knows exactly who Wolff is and what kind of books he writes, so this Wolff book is of Trump's making, for Trump to feign like he has been set upon and blindsided by Wolff, that's not really believable.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:41 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:See, Trump is the one who invited Micheal Wolff into the fold, Trump was meeting with Wolff and telling Wolff that Trump was going to bring him along for the ride, before the campaign even started, and Trump knows exactly who Wolff is and what kind of books he writes, so this Wolff book is of Trump's making, for Trump to feign like he has been set upon and blindsided by Wolff, that's not really believable.
Of course not, he's just trying to spin this thing with his own narrative, Trump is feigning surprise and embellishing outrage for political gain, as usual. As long as it keeps him in the spotlight he's happy, jingly keys for the win.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:48 pm

Indeed, you see it here on the forum, cornpone rubes like Okie running out to defend Trump, the Penner bots pouncing to say they told you so, it's all about keeping the fever ginned up...

... but that doesn't mean the stuff in the book is not credible and believable, it's very plausible, reads exactly like the kind of circus everyone suspects is going on, and of course Trump can simply deny it, and the opinions will all break down Red Team v. Blue Team, which is the whole point.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:52 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:Indeed, you see it here on the forum, cornpone rubes like Okie running out to defend Trump, the Penner bots pouncing to say they told you so, it's all about keeping the fever ginned up...

... but that doesn't mean the stuff in the book is not credible and believable, it's very plausible, reads exactly like the kind of circus everyone suspects is going on, and of course Trump can simply deny it, and the opinions will all break down Red Team v. Blue Team, which is the whole point.
Well some of it isn't credible and believable, and some of it definitely is, but not everyone agrees on which parts are which, which is all the better for Trump, while Trump denies everything to sway as much of Red Team to his side as possible and keep both teams at each others throats. This book is jingly keys incarnate, and Trump is out to maximize that effect, hence why he's spinning it the way that he is, maximize controversy and keep the media spotlight where he wants it.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Fife » Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:01 pm

Fife wrote:Do you guys know who is a *REAL* stable genius?

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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:02 pm

Like I say, I find most of it to be very plausible, obviously people have axes to grind, but that doesn't mean Wolff isn't accurately reporting what they said and did, Wolff would have been sued into the poor house a long time ago if that's how he operated, but he knows exactly what is slander and what isn't.

It's all in the words of the people who were talking to Wolff, Wolff makes no assertions of his own, he's just passing on what he was told and what he saw for himself.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by C-Mag » Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:03 pm

DBTrek wrote:Low on “policy positions”?

I think you’re low on information positions.

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