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Post by heydaralon » Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:31 am

Smitty-48 wrote:Well first of all, to have enough grain to last you, you'd have to own a sizable farm, and be a fuckin' farmer who knew what he was doing. And even if you do know what you're doing, grain goes bad all the time, farming is dodgy at the best of times, never mind some wannabe prepper who doesn't own a farm and has no clue what he's doing. So grain baron Grumpy is clearly a fantasy.

In terms of gold, even if it went up a 1000%, that's only $880,000 a kilo, so you're not going to be rich, assuming you are even sitting on one kilo right now, if you're just holding a few bars, that ain't got be enough, even at a 1000% increase, that's only $120,000 a bar, that's not wealthy by any means, considering it is an asset, not income.
Yeah plus there are many pests and like mites locusts etc that can destroy an entire seasons harvest pretty rapidly. Shit my mom's side were farmers in TN and sometimes shit in their garden or fields would get hit with some bug and it would take them a bit of time to even figure out what the fuck it was and how to deal with it. During that time, you might lose the whole harvest. These are professional farmers too. Some amateur farmer would be fucked without a rubber. It would only take this happening once for you to basically starve. You can store grain for a lot longer if its dried, but then you gotta worry about mice and rats and bugs eating it in the barn. Logistically, there are many points of failure which is why most people don't farm anymore.

And again, if you really had a good grain hustle going on, what is to stopped better armed neighbors or roving gangs from stealing it? To their credit, most preppers are armed, but I don't see GCF packing any serious heat. He would be a sitting duck in the suburbs too. Shit, if he had a really good year, some local corrupt out of work cops or national guards might just confiscate it under the pretense of using it to feed others in the city. If you have shit of value when the world ends, it either won't be valuable long, or it won't be yours long.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:52 am

In the event of, the Crown of Canada owns all the gold in the ground here, the gold companies don't own it, they pay royalties to mine it, Queen Elizabeth II owns it all, so if gold spiraled through the roof, that would just make Canada one of the richest countries on earth, not to mention were the sixth largest grain producer in the world, we produce half as much grain as the USA, for one tenth the population, so I'm not too concerned about it.

In the event total catastrophe, Canada is actually well positioned to exploit it, we produce far more food than we eat, and we are sitting on an exponential motherlode of gold.

Gold only went up 50% in the Great Depression, if gold had gone through the roof, there would have been no depression in Canada, in the event of spiraling gold prices, we would be like Saudi Arabia, money coming out of our ears.
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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sat Dec 23, 2017 2:11 am

Smit: ‘’past performance’

points out that having shit without biggest guns would lose shit. Then points to Canada having shit. :lol:
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 2:14 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:Smit: ‘’past performance’

points out that having shit without biggest guns would lose shit. Then points to Canada having shit. :lol:
In the event of the dollar collapsing, your military collapses with it, your military is not designed to work, unless it is fed continuously by the Fed, if the Fed goes into hyperinflation, the Pentagon falls apart too. Not to mention, what was still working for your military, would be fully engaged in trying to maintain order and doing humanitarian relief.

Whatever you had left over, wouldn't be enough to threaten us. In reality, the United States would be on its knees, looking to Canada for assistance.
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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sat Dec 23, 2017 2:15 am

Hyper inflation is not Mad Max, it’s Weimar Republic. Rule of martial law would certainly apply. In the event of which, having a pre-established food source, and bartering goods would be a great benefit.

In the event of Mad Max, I’m as fucked as anyone. I’m not going full Rambo Homesteader, and trying to plan for that is nearly useless. But would you rather be the guy with ‘some stuff’, or the average fuck with no stuff?
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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sat Dec 23, 2017 2:16 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Smit: ‘’past performance’

points out that having shit without biggest guns would lose shit. Then points to Canada having shit. :lol:
In the event of the dollar collapsing, your military collapses with it, your military is not designed to work, unless it is fed continuously by the Fed, if the Fed goes into hyperinflation, the Pentagon falls apart too. Not to mention, what was left of your military, would be fully engaged in trying to maintian and and doing humanitarian relief.

Whatever you had left over, wouldn't be enough to threaten us. In reality, the United States would be on its knees, looking to Canada for assistance.
How’d that work for you in 2007? Was Canada standing alone atop the global financial system, squeaky clean?
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 2:18 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:Hyper inflation is not Mad Max, it’s Weimar Republic. Rule of martial law would certainly apply. In the event of which, having a pre-established food source, and bartering goods would be a great benefit.

In the event of Mad Max, I’m as fucked as anyone. I’m not going full Rambo Homesteader, and trying to plan for that is nearly useless. But would you rather be the guy with ‘some stuff’, or the average fuck with no stuff?
I wouldn't assume that you are sitting on more gold than me, and I would not assume that you have more grain at your disposal neither, and Canada could fully mobilize as well, like World War Two, 1.2 million troops, and with the gold the Crown is sitting on here, we could afford to pay them.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 2:20 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
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GrumpyCatFace wrote:Smit: ‘’past performance’

points out that having shit without biggest guns would lose shit. Then points to Canada having shit. :lol:
In the event of the dollar collapsing, your military collapses with it, your military is not designed to work, unless it is fed continuously by the Fed, if the Fed goes into hyperinflation, the Pentagon falls apart too. Not to mention, what was left of your military, would be fully engaged in trying to maintian and and doing humanitarian relief.

Whatever you had left over, wouldn't be enough to threaten us. In reality, the United States would be on its knees, looking to Canada for assistance.
How’d that work for you in 2007? Was Canada standing alone atop the global financial system, squeaky clean?
We were in much better shape than you, I never even felt a bump from the 2008 financial crisis, didn't effect me at all, and in terms of equity, I ended up making money not losing.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 2:22 am

Bear in mind, Canada, has never, in its entire history, suffered a banking crisis, not even in the Great Depression.
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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sat Dec 23, 2017 2:24 am

heydaralon wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:Well first of all, to have enough grain to last you, you'd have to own a sizable farm, and be a fuckin' farmer who knew what he was doing. And even if you do know what you're doing, grain goes bad all the time, farming is dodgy at the best of times, never mind some wannabe prepper who doesn't own a farm and has no clue what he's doing. So grain baron Grumpy is clearly a fantasy.

In terms of gold, even if it went up a 1000%, that's only $880,000 a kilo, so you're not going to be rich, assuming you are even sitting on one kilo right now, if you're just holding a few bars, that ain't got be enough, even at a 1000% increase, that's only $120,000 a bar, that's not wealthy by any means, considering it is an asset, not income.
Yeah plus there are many pests and like mites locusts etc that can destroy an entire seasons harvest pretty rapidly. Shit my mom's side were farmers in TN and sometimes shit in their garden or fields would get hit with some bug and it would take them a bit of time to even figure out what the fuck it was and how to deal with it. During that time, you might lose the whole harvest. These are professional farmers too. Some amateur farmer would be fucked without a rubber. It would only take this happening once for you to basically starve. You can store grain for a lot longer if its dried, but then you gotta worry about mice and rats and bugs eating it in the barn. Logistically, there are many points of failure which is why most people don't farm anymore.

And again, if you really had a good grain hustle going on, what is to stopped better armed neighbors or roving gangs from stealing it? To their credit, most preppers are armed, but I don't see GCF packing any serious heat. He would be a sitting duck in the suburbs too. Shit, if he had a really good year, some local corrupt out of work cops or national guards might just confiscate it under the pretense of using it to feed others in the city. If you have shit of value when the world ends, it either won't be valuable long, or it won't be yours long.
People don’t farm anymore because crop subsidies have driven everyone out that can’t expand to an industrial level.

And I’m certainly not interested in mono-cropping. I’m growing a huge variety of things. I did an experimental summer wheat crop, and currently have winter wheat in the field as a cover crop. It’s not really worth the work for now, but it’s important to learn the skills while it’s easy.

I’ve never claimed to be well-prepared for much of anything. I’m just a guy that’s trying. And that’s a lot more than most can say.
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