100% agree on all points. All the finger wagging at the Syrian citizens is absolute bullshit. I can understand not wanting to have any involvement in this conflict, it's a clusterfuck of a local conflict, regional conflict, and geopolitical chess. From my view, the only reason for the US to get involved is to stop a group/country from gaining, which is not worth the cost of being involved (mainly blowback).BjornP wrote:Imagine that you're in a besieged city, ND. Two sides are fighting: Communists and Progressives, one side wants to execute you if they win, the other "just" wants to keep letting you live an oppressed life, so no need to fight for either side. Your son is with you. You have the option of leading him out of the country, to safety. Do you choose to fight for the Communists or Progressives and buy your son a ticket to safety, or do you travel with your son out of the country?TheReal_ND wrote:The people not taking a stand are cowards. Why does everyone redirect their PC bull shit at other people when I'm the one saying the shit? I will never get this. On the old forum DSL took a lot of shit for things I said. Me. Direct your criticism at me ffs.
The bullshit on the old forum, and Okee's bullshit, is the bullshit that:
1: That the Syrian Arab men weren't "taking a stand". Who do you think Assad and ISIS have been fighting all this time? Clue: It hasn't just been Kurds. Before Russia intervened (more directly than Western interests did), Assad wasn't doing very well against the Western backed opposition.
2: That "fighting for your home" as a Syrian meant and means getting killed by both Assad/Russia AND ISIS.
3: In other words, people seem to keep forgetting that the conflict is not ISIS versus Syria and Iraq. If no men had "taken a stand" in Syria, the Civil War wouldn't have lasted this long.
That being said, though....
Yes, the media currently is being pathetic regarding Aleppo. I have zero love for Russia, or Assad. Nor am one of those who respond to claims of Russian, Chinese or other's human rights violations with "Well, America does it, too!" (which is 98% of the time is BS, too)...but the main reason Aleppo is brought forth as such a major tragedy is primarily because we lost. Doesn't make what Russia does right. Doesn't excuse anything. But I realize the media is being played, or letting themselves get played, and trying to play me too.
If you want to act all edgy and talk about how they should all get nuked/killed, go for it, but you're basically telling all of us that you are not a person with serious views that are worth reading.
