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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:53 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:It's bizarre how little people seem to give a shit that these crazy fucks just detonated a huge fusion bomb and might soon be able to deliver it to the west coast of the United States.
It's because the only paradigm they know, is the late Cold War stable symmetrical paradigm, they don't what it is to live in the early Cold War unstable assymetrical paradigm, and they both underrate the Juche Doomsday Cult, and mistake them for the Soviets, which, big mistake, cause this is a whole nother animal here in Pyongyang, they're small, but they could punch way above their weight class, and in actual fact, real world terms, they are way crazier than ISIS.

The sort of all encompassing doomsday cult totalitarian regime which ISIS dreams about, aspirational; the North Koreans blew by that along time ago, and then they took it to the next level, and the next level beyond that as well, ISIS is a buncha wannbe's, DPRK is the real deal.
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Post by StCapps » Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:01 pm

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Speaker to Animals wrote:It's bizarre how little people seem to give a shit that these crazy fucks just detonated a huge fusion bomb and might soon be able to deliver it to the west coast of the United States.
It's because the only paradigm they know, is the late Cold War stable symmetrical paradigm, they don't what it is to live in the early Cold War unstable assymetrical paradigm, and they both underrate the Juche Doomsday Cult, and mistake them for the Soviets, which, big mistake, cause this is a whole nother animal here in Pyongyang, they're small, but they could punch way above their weight class, and in actual fact, real world terms, they are way crazier than ISIS.
So what is Trump going to do about it? We all know what Smitty Lemay would do, but what about the guy who is actually CinC?
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Post by Kazmyr » Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:02 pm

So in light of this, does it make pre-emptive first strike more likely, or rather, in America's interests? I'd think so, right? Or is there some possibility that NK has stashed some of its arsenal in a place that we're not aware of for dead hand retaliation?

It's one thing when it's a bunch of batshit Koreans piecing shit together with erector sets; something of this magnitude gives me... well I think it's time to go back to the bar for another round.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:12 pm

We really need to strike. Like soon.

We have to destroy their nuclear weapons program. This has gone too far.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:16 pm

StCapps wrote:So what is Trump going to do about it?
Don't know, but not that much I would suspect, he's probably in the American procrastination paradigm with everybody else, I can only submit what I would do about it, which is not let them achieve the threshold of launch on warning hair trigger alert against the CONUS, thermonuclear, up to and including use of preemtive counterforce with B61's as necessary, sooner rather than later.

There is a point in what you say about the Russians and Chinese, because there is a limit to what they would tolerate without going to war over it, and that is very limited counterforce, can't go countervalue against Pyongyang, without setting Beijing and Moscow off.

But the thing is, limited counterforce, that's not actually doomsday for the Juche Doomsday Cult, not in their minds, so we're not actually in a mutually assured destruction situation here, the vulnerability is not mutual, trade off for trade off.

They would be willing to drop Redwing Tewa on Los Angeles and beyond, and take the pounding for it, because in actual fact, B61 limited counterforce, probably doesn't scare them that much, that's not their definition of doomsday, so if you don't preempt, operationally, then you're not actually holding that big a stick over them, because they would be willing to go to the matresses, to bring America down, it's all they think about, all day every day, and in their definition of survival, it is survivable, and by their definition of unacceptable casualties, it is acceptable.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:18 pm

We could probably get away with destroying their nuclear weapons program, but the South Koreans would risk a lot of casualties in the retaliatory artillery strikes.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:37 pm

And for anybody calling me an Armchair General, bear in mind, Redwing Tewa puts my armchair in the killzone too, so, prepared to kill and die for Her Majesty, but not eager, and if comes to kill or die, I mean, yeah, I'm going to go with kill over die, 'specially when it comes to killing that abomination in Pyongyang.

Yes, moms and puppies would die in Pyongyang, but not your moms, and not my puppies, and it ain't like I'm saying drop Castle Bravo on them, compared to their plans for us, hitting them with a few B61's, is practically pacifist.

In the context of North Korean countervalue v. Eagles with Thunderbolts in Talons Grasped, counterforce? As CinC? Would I put the security of American moms and puppies over and above the survival of the abominaton in Pyongyang, even if I had to kill a million of them to effect the counterforce operation and bring them down?

Fuckin' right I would, in a heartbeat, that's what being CinC is all about, America First, no ifs ands nor buts about it, and if the International Community don't like it? Fuck them.

And if Russia and China don't like it? Well that's just too bad so sad, you had a million chances to do something about it, but you didn't, so now you done gone and forced my hand.

Still at war with North Korea, all there is, is a glorified ceasefire, and if they're going take things to Redwing Tewa from there? They're the ones going hot again, all I would be doing, is preempting them, before they got their kill shots in, because with Redwing Tewa, there is no second chance.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Sep 03, 2017 5:28 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:We could probably get away with destroying their nuclear weapons program, but the South Koreans would risk a lot of casualties in the retaliatory artillery strikes.
The counterforce package would have a conventional component to deal with that, if that is, the NK's even did open fire, which they probably wouldn't, since they'd be decapitated from Pyongyang, and they don't take a dump without orders from Pyongyang, it's decapitate, stun, and disarm, all in one go.

The artillery threat to Seoul is grossly overstated, liberal media fiction, and there's plenty of places in Seoul for people to shelter from what they do have anyways, until the counterforce was effected amd complete.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Sep 03, 2017 5:33 pm

Destroying their nuclear program wouldn't be very different from Russia intervening in Syria. Washington created the mess in Syria, tried to make it worse, and Moscow decided they would just fix it themselves. I suspect China and Russia would complain no differently than Washington complained about Putin putting out their fires. It's a NK counter-offensive that concerns me.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Sep 03, 2017 5:35 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:It's a NK counter-offensive that concerns me.
Conventionally, they don't stand a chance, it would be highway of death, if they even moved, which, with Pyongyang no longer directing them, unlikely they would, since while it may be the ultimate totalitarian regime, big weakness there; nobody can take the initiative.
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