Another School Shooting

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Re: Another School Shooting

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sun Apr 01, 2018 8:55 am

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Re: Another School Shooting

Post by C-Mag » Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:12 pm

We've gotta stop letting the Hoggs of the world control the narrative on these Civil Rights issues.

Liberty minded folks need to take the initiative and frame the argument correctly. These school shootings are a failure of government to protect the children they are charged with protecting. It's not different from the government being responsible for kids on a bus. Kids are not allowed to wander around a bus because they might harm themselves or others. Troublemakers and kids that make threats are not allowed on busses.

The government has created the environment where they control everything about security of teachers, children and staff at schools. They have made them gun free zones, prevented dangerous kids like Cruz to be controlled and prevented teachers, parents and staff from having personal tools to defend the kids in their charge.

Everyone of these incidents is a failure of government, but we are letting people that favor big government to control the narrative and go after individual rights while giving government a complete pass on their Number One responsibility to keep these children safe.
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Re: Another School Shooting

Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:15 pm

C-Mag wrote:We've gotta stop letting the Hoggs of the world control the narrative on these Civil Rights issues.

Liberty minded folks need to take the initiative and frame the argument correctly. These school shootings are a failure of government to protect the children they are charged with protecting. It's not different from the government being responsible for kids on a bus. Kids are not allowed to wander around a bus because they might harm themselves or others. Troublemakers and kids that make threats are not allowed on busses.

The government has created the environment where they control everything about security of teachers, children and staff at schools. They have made them gun free zones, prevented dangerous kids like Cruz to be controlled and prevented teachers, parents and staff from having personal tools to defend the kids in their charge.

Everyone of these incidents is a failure of government, but we are letting people that favor big government to control the narrative and go after individual rights while giving government a complete pass on their Number One responsibility to keep these children safe.
Folks are gonna have to come to terms with the fact that this war already started. It started on election night. Gotta stop thinking that the people calling you evil, racist, Russia colluding, child murderers are people you can have a conversation with.

They aren't going to let liberty minded speakers onto their platforms to take the initiative or frame the argument anymore than Japan was going to warn Pearl Harbor, or broadcast the fleet's position ahead of the attack.

https://news.google.com/news/search/sec ... =US&ned=us

Time to get your minds right about what's going on.
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Re: Another School Shooting

Post by BjornP » Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:01 pm

C-Mag wrote:We've gotta stop letting the Hoggs of the world control the narrative on these Civil Rights issues.

Liberty minded folks need to take the initiative and frame the argument correctly. These school shootings are a failure of government to protect the children they are charged with protecting. It's not different from the government being responsible for kids on a bus. Kids are not allowed to wander around a bus because they might harm themselves or others. Troublemakers and kids that make threats are not allowed on busses.

The government has created the environment where they control everything about security of teachers, children and staff at schools. They have made them gun free zones, prevented dangerous kids like Cruz to be controlled and prevented teachers, parents and staff from having personal tools to defend the kids in their charge.

Everyone of these incidents is a failure of government, but we are letting people that favor big government to control the narrative and go after individual rights while giving government a complete pass on their Number One responsibility to keep these children safe.
How excatly would a small government, emphasis on the small, solution to government guarenteeing the safety of children from shooters at public schools look like? For the sake of argument, I am assuming you're not imagining government security personnel securing kids at private schools. We talking installing sensors in the school busses, so no one can bring guns aboard, barbed wire fences and towers with sharpshooters and multiple checkpoints with metal detectors? Monthly psych eval to see if anyone's turned psycho?
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Re: Another School Shooting

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:05 pm

Think small, homogeneous community and you will start to get the picture.

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Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:06 pm

"guarenteeing the safety of children."

:roll:
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Re: Another School Shooting

Post by de officiis » Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:17 pm

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Re: Another School Shooting

Post by BjornP » Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:18 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:Think small, homogeneous community and you will start to get the picture.

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I possibly might. So, it could be volunteer work for whoever's got the time to guard a school for 8+ hours, or half if they're taking turns? Well, one can hope there are enough grandparents and/or unemployed people who have the time for that. That's certainly cheap and non-controlling enough to qualify as a less government solution.
Okee wrote:"guarenteeing the safety of children."

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Yeah, I was referencing this: "These school shootings are a failure of government to protect the children" - part of Carlus' post.
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Re: Another School Shooting

Post by C-Mag » Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:21 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
C-Mag wrote:We've gotta stop letting the Hoggs of the world control the narrative on these Civil Rights issues.

Liberty minded folks need to take the initiative and frame the argument correctly. These school shootings are a failure of government to protect the children they are charged with protecting. It's not different from the government being responsible for kids on a bus. Kids are not allowed to wander around a bus because they might harm themselves or others. Troublemakers and kids that make threats are not allowed on busses.

The government has created the environment where they control everything about security of teachers, children and staff at schools. They have made them gun free zones, prevented dangerous kids like Cruz to be controlled and prevented teachers, parents and staff from having personal tools to defend the kids in their charge.

Everyone of these incidents is a failure of government, but we are letting people that favor big government to control the narrative and go after individual rights while giving government a complete pass on their Number One responsibility to keep these children safe.
Folks are gonna have to come to terms with the fact that this war already started. It started on election night. Gotta stop thinking that the people calling you evil, racist, Russia colluding, child murderers are people you can have a conversation with.

They aren't going to let liberty minded speakers onto their platforms to take the initiative or frame the argument anymore than Japan was going to warn Pearl Harbor, or broadcast the fleet's position ahead of the attack.

https://news.google.com/news/search/sec ... =US&ned=us

Time to get your minds right about what's going on.
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Re: Another School Shooting

Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:32 pm

BjornP wrote:
Okee wrote:"guarenteeing the safety of children."

:roll:
Yeah, I was referencing this: "These school shootings are a failure of government to protect the children" - part of Carlus' post.
Responding to a critique of a failure by challenging the critic to present a guarantee against future failure isn't a valid response.

This patient died because the doctor fucked up.

Okay, let's hear your plan to guarantee no one ever dies again.
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