Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

[StCapps]

If political opponents should be immune from investigation, according to these Demohacks, then why are the Demohacks investigating Trump?


According to their own logic, Trump should be immune, if Biden should be immune. Yet they demand Trump be investigated and demand that Biden should not be investigated, very interesting double standard they got going on there.

[The Conservative]

So answer my last question.

If there was nothing to it, and no wrongdoing, then why is the investigation plus 15 others being opened back up?

Trump wanted one, not 16.

1st, you should be the last to be saying 'where there's an investigation there must be a crime', given your position.
2nd: Christ, you want to know exactly why a corrupt, failing state would open investigations related to one of the biggest shitshows in American history? I don't know, could be they're doubling down on Trump, figuring if he survives he'll look favorably on them. Or they're trying to show they're not as corrupt as everyone is saying.

But, you know, even IF the whole Biden allegation were true, it wouldn't change the fact that Trump was trying to get a foreign government to investigate his political rival. Are you claiming the 'possibility' of it being true negates the impropriety of Trump's act?

No, there is a not so thin line between negotiations and extortion.

What Trump did was request that the Ukraine kept its promises, which was one of the stipulations for getting the money in the first place. As it was pointed out before, the US doesn't give money like that away for free.

What Biden did was to keep an investigation from happening. Which happen to be dealing with money laundering and the board of directors, which one of them happens to be his son.

This was extortion Plain and simple on Biden's part.

[StCapps]

So answer my last question.

If there was nothing to it, and no wrongdoing, then why is the investigation plus 15 others being opened back up?

Trump wanted one, not 16.

1st, you should be the last to be saying 'where there's an investigation there must be a crime', given your position.
2nd: Christ, you want to know exactly why a corrupt, failing state would open investigations related to one of the biggest shitshows in American history? I don't know, could be they're doubling down on Trump, figuring if he survives he'll look favorably on them. Or they're trying to show they're not as corrupt as everyone is saying.

But, you know, even IF the whole Biden allegation were true, it wouldn't change the fact that Trump was trying to get a foreign government to investigate his political rival. Are you claiming the 'possibility' of it being true negates the impropriety of Trump's act?

No, there is a not so thin line between negotiations and extortion.

What Trump did was request that the Ukraine kept its promises, which was one of the stipulations for getting the money in the first place. As it was pointed out before, the US doesn't give money like that away for free.

What Biden did was to keep an investigation from happening. Which happen to be dealing with money laundering and the board of directors, which one of them happens to be his son.

This was extortion Plain and simple on Biden's part.

Meh, prove it was only about saving his son and no other reason, or you got nothing. Saying Biden definitely broke the law is as dumb as claiming Trump did, don't be engaging in a double standard just because the Dems are. There is no smoking gun on either side here, don't pretend there is.

[The Conservative]

You really don't know when to stop, do you? Trump requested that the Ukraine keep it's promise to fight corruption by looking into some... To keep getting the money.

Biden demanded that they fire the prosecutor which happened to be investigating a company for corruption, which Biden’s own son was on the board of.

Doing so would kill the investigation.

Do you see a difference? Investigate ≠ demand.

[StCapps]

Seems like there is more grounds to investigate Biden than Trump, but there is no smoking gun on either side. No need for double standards.

[The Conservative]

1st, you should be the last to be saying 'where there's an investigation there must be a crime', given your position.
2nd: Christ, you want to know exactly why a corrupt, failing state would open investigations related to one of the biggest shitshows in American history? I don't know, could be they're doubling down on Trump, figuring if he survives he'll look favorably on them. Or they're trying to show they're not as corrupt as everyone is saying.

But, you know, even IF the whole Biden allegation were true, it wouldn't change the fact that Trump was trying to get a foreign government to investigate his political rival. Are you claiming the 'possibility' of it being true negates the impropriety of Trump's act?

No, there is a not so thin line between negotiations and extortion.

What Trump did was request that the Ukraine kept its promises, which was one of the stipulations for getting the money in the first place. As it was pointed out before, the US doesn't give money like that away for free.

What Biden did was to keep an investigation from happening. Which happen to be dealing with money laundering and the board of directors, which one of them happens to be his son.

This was extortion Plain and simple on Biden's part.

Meh, prove it was only about saving his son and no other reason, or you got nothing. Saying Biden definitely broke the law is as dumb as claiming Trump did, don't be engaging in a double standard just because the Dems are.

I can; the investigation was just brought back to life. With 15 others. All have to deal with money laundering and corruption.

Did you not read the links I provided?

One specifically states that it was investigating the board, including Hunter trump, for money laundering.

https://www.npr.org/2019/10/04/76738670 ... er-employe

These are not new investigations, they are reopened cases.

[StCapps]

No, there is a not so thin line between negotiations and extortion.

What Trump did was request that the Ukraine kept its promises, which was one of the stipulations for getting the money in the first place. As it was pointed out before, the US doesn't give money like that away for free.

What Biden did was to keep an investigation from happening. Which happen to be dealing with money laundering and the board of directors, which one of them happens to be his son.

This was extortion Plain and simple on Biden's part.

Meh, prove it was only about saving his son and no other reason, or you got nothing. Saying Biden definitely broke the law is as dumb as claiming Trump did, don't be engaging in a double standard just because the Dems are.

I can; the investigation was just brought back to life. With 15 others. All have to deal with money laundering and corruption.

Did you not read the links I provided?

One specifically states that it was investigating the board, including Hunter trump, for money laundering.

https://www.npr.org/2019/10/04/76738670 ... er-employe

These are not new investigations, they are reopened cases.

Burisma being investigated for money laundering is not a smoking gun, anymore than Trump being investigated is a smoking gun.
/shrugs

Investigations being conducted are not smoking guns. There is no evidence of guilt on either Biden or Trump's side.

[The Conservative]

Meh, prove it was only about saving his son and no other reason, or you got nothing. Saying Biden definitely broke the law is as dumb as claiming Trump did, don't be engaging in a double standard just because the Dems are.

I can; the investigation was just brought back to life. With 15 others. All have to deal with money laundering and corruption.

Did you not read the links I provided?

One specifically states that it was investigating the board, including Hunter trump, for money laundering.

https://www.npr.org/2019/10/04/76738670 ... er-employe

These are not new investigations, they are reopened cases.

Burisma being investigated for money laundering is not a smoking gun, anymore than Trump being investigated is a smoking gun.
/shrugs

Investigations being conducted are not smoking guns. There is no evidence of guilt on either Biden or Trump's side.

https://tass.com/world/1090971

[StCapps]

I can; the investigation was just brought back to life. With 15 others. All have to deal with money laundering and corruption.

Did you not read the links I provided?

One specifically states that it was investigating the board, including Hunter trump, for money laundering.

https://www.npr.org/2019/10/04/76738670 ... er-employe

These are not new investigations, they are reopened cases.

Burisma being investigated for money laundering is not a smoking gun, anymore than Trump being investigated is a smoking gun.
/shrugs

Investigations being conducted are not smoking guns. There is no evidence of guilt on either Biden or Trump's side.

https://tass.com/world/1090971

Not a smoking gun. Getting paid is not a crime, that's evidence of someone else committing a crime to pay him, not evidence of Biden committing a crime.

You have grounds for an investigation, but not proof of Biden's guilt. You are reaching almost as much as the Demohacks are, with claims of a smoking gun, not a good look. Enough of the obvious double standards dude, stop being triggered by Democrats into acting just like them only on the other side.

[The Conservative]

Burisma being investigated for money laundering is not a smoking gun, anymore than Trump being investigated is a smoking gun.
/shrugs

Investigations being conducted are not smoking guns. There is no evidence of guilt on either Biden or Trump's side.

https://tass.com/world/1090971

Not a smoking gun. Getting paid is not a crime, that's evidence of someone else committing a crime to pay him, not evidence of Biden committing a crime.

You have grounds for an investigation, but not proof of Biden's guilt. You are reaching almost as much as the Demohacks are, with claims of a smoking gun, not a good look. Enough of the obvious double standards dude, stop being triggered by Democrats into acting just like them only on the other side.

You wont have it until the investigation is done. But you be you and ignore the facts.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house ... is-revived