Urban vs. Rural; What's to be done?

[Speaker to Animals]

What is preventing people in America from forming strong bonds of community? Or, availing themselves of all the edifying activities humans enjoy?

Being happy is time consuming, hard work. Always has been, always will be.

Government coupled with cultural Marxism.

Strong communities are antithetical to centralized state control, and they are based around male fraternity, which is antithetical to cultural marxism.

Are the critical theory professors kicking down the door to your club house and physically preventing you from forming strong fraternal attachments?

There are plenty of opportunities for male bonding. I know, sometimes you might get called toxic, or catch some side eye for locker room talk, but, as far as I know, it is still perfectly legal to make guy friends.

I am going to toss you this one for free: You are a computers person. Make an online dating app for bros just looking for non-sexual bro bonding time. It is hard to make friends. Harder, maybe than finding lovers, so I think you might be able to really make some cash on this one.

Don't be such a dishonest hack. You know the problem well. They control the media, the government schools, the universities, and most of the government. They go out of their way to ruin the livelihoods of men who speak out against it. The only way men can really speak against it is anonymously on the Internet (for now), and even then when they get doxxed their lives are ruined. Look at what happened to that autist at Google who simply published the facts about women in the workplace within a private memo that later was disseminated. The memo was predicated on how to increase "diversity" -- he was on their side -- but they went after him anyway because he was a male who spoke uncomfortable truths. The situation we find ourselves in today as men is really fucking horrible. Wait till you get your children stolen from you and you get enslaved to the bitch because she wants to empower herself. These are all consequences of the cultural marxism that infected American society starting in the 1960s. The Marxists called this the "Long March through the institutions". I hope we gas them in the end, quite honestly.

Most men are feminized because of this. They have no concept of fraternity, loyalty, or brotherhood whatsoever. It's just eating away society like advanced social cancer. Every fucking day I encounter men who's entire self-worth is built around whether women approve of them and how great a utility they are to females. I don't think many of you realize how fucking far from natural this is.

As far as attempts for online fraternity.. the pagans are doing that now. Go search up the "heathen community" in the context of tribalism. It's happening now in a very low-key way. A lot of men are already checking out of the system. MGTOW is another example of men saying fuck it and checking out of the system. MGTOW is not just men saying fuck off to marriage and longterm relationships with women. It's also a giant fuck you to the corporate culture.

[Speaker to Animals]

And as far as our need for tribalism. I don't think we can escape it.

What are the SJWs if not people pining for a tribe to which they belong? Their tribe is built around oppressed classes and their "allies", but it's still a shitty form of tribalism.

What are the Alt-Right but a lot of white men who pine for a tribe?

I think A LOT of men are very isolated in our society, and it's basically what the state and the cultural marxists want most. They don't give a shit that the male suicide rate is through the roof. You are not really full humans to them. You are just work animals at best, especially to liberal women.

[Fife]

[Speaker to Animals]

And again: I really believe most of you have no idea how miserable you actually are.

This shit we live today fucking sucks. Easier and more comfortable doesn't mean you are happy. There is no meaning to life anymore. There is no purpose. There is no value to things. No social connections. Most of us really don't even know our own neighbors very well, even though we have lived next to the motherfuckers for years.

Just step back from it, consider how life was for most of human history, and look at it for how crazy it really is.

The cities are the worst of it.

[brewster]

And again: I really believe most of you have no idea how miserable you actually are.

This shit we live today fucking sucks. Easier and more comfortable doesn't mean you are happy. There is no meaning to life anymore. There is no purpose. There is no value to things. No social connections. Most of us really don't even know our own neighbors very well, even though we have lived next to the motherfuckers for years.

Just step back from it, consider how life was for most of human history, and look at it for how crazy it really is.

The cities are the worst of it.

If this is truly what you believe, why are you ranting to a bunch of assholes on the internet instead of finding some Mennonites or such to purify your soul with simple living? Cut off your foreskin, grow sidecurls and join the Hasids, they're all about what you want, tight community. What you want does exist, you just don't want to to go all in with what you say and give up the earthly pleasures. All your ranting is YOUR POV, there's plenty of happy people, a lot of them in the cities you despise. What the hell is wrong with your religion that you can't find the community you crave in your congregation? I have to turn down the bro activities of mine. There's the scout troop, a weekly poker game, and a regular "Beer Mitzvah" bar meetup, besides all the other non-gendered activities such as services, study and charity work. I could be with people of community most of the week if I chose.

You're externalizing your own self hatred and misery by blaming others for not making you happy. It's a classic. I'm a depressive self hating type too, but I've got no one to blame but myself, life has been more than fair to me.

[Viktorthepirate]

And again: I really believe most of you have no idea how miserable you actually are.

This shit we live today fucking sucks. Easier and more comfortable doesn't mean you are happy. There is no meaning to life anymore. There is no purpose. There is no value to things. No social connections. Most of us really don't even know our own neighbors very well, even though we have lived next to the motherfuckers for years.

Just step back from it, consider how life was for most of human history, and look at it for how crazy it really is.

The cities are the worst of it.

Well... I'm pretty happy.

I have plenty of meaning without a need for space ghost (religion) or other people (though I have plenty of "my people").

I fought my war and went home. I also think I would be just fine without the stupid shit I went through for the sake of my tribe though I wouldn't trade the experience for anything.

If you don't impregnate a harlot and you work hard plenty of meaning and pride to be found from burger flipper to CEO. People like you describe need to quit being such self obsessed pussies.

"What does it all mean?" Live you're fucking life dude. If you got all arms and legs and ain't diein of cancer you're existential crisis is your own fucking whining in the wealthiest and most powerful of nations in world history.

Go to Africa if you want tribalism and struggle.

[Speaker to Animals]

What I want is community and society of men that behave like it.

What we have pumping out of the cities and now indoctrinating every corner of America is what one writer calls the Bonobo Masturbation Society. That's quite apt and describes it well.

You play your video games, watch television sports, and are encouraged to shut the fuck up and isolate yourselves. Your only identities are vacuous commercial identities like sports fandom, or what shows you like to watch, what video games you play, etc.

None of that is truly fulfilling no matter how much you want to convince yourselves. Society requires men to chase after women, constantly worry about whether women find them useful, and then demonizes those men often into suicide when the women dispose of them for new men. It's literally a bonobo society. The Bonobo Masturbation Society.

Fuck that. Isolate the cities and let them live that way without infecting the rest of us.

[Speaker to Animals]

Personally, I suspect towards the end of classical civilization, the majority of men killed it gleefully because they found barbarism preferable. I think civilization is constantly fighting this need of men to break it down because it doesn't really serve the interests of most men as it keeps going on.

What we have now is unique in all history in that civilization not only no longer serves the interests of most men, it's almost exclusively geared towards benefiting women, even at unsustainable wealth transferal levels. Even if all men thought this was fucking fantastic and never changed their minds, it would still collapse eventually.

To keep civilization going, you actually need to balance the interests of all the male participants. Contrary to popular opinion, you don't need to give a good damned about what the females want, though our people do have an overly active sense of justice, which would no matter what happens look out for their interests. Still, it's not the disaffected women that will tear it all down. Women can't do shit on their own. Their power is through manipulation of men against other men. Eventually that's going to break down (already is, in fact), and things will start to get really crazy.

What exactly do you effete urbanites think you are going to do when large numbers of men not only check out from your Bonobo Masturbation Society, but intentionally build counter-cultures (the real deal instead of a buzzword) that are essentially barbaric societies within the borders of your nation? Who do you think will fight them for you? Not you. Most of male urbanites are not able to fight and never shot a rifle. There will still be plenty of males willing to fight for the BMS, but I suspect their numbers will dwindle over time.

What's the point of fighting for a society that hates you, sees you as nothing but a utility at best, slave at worst, and the principle benefactors of that BMS themselves sacrifice almost nothing, contribute little, and definitely don't by and large fight alongside you?

[brewster]

What I want is community and society of men that behave like it.

Then it's definitely the Hasids for you. They thank God every day for not making them a woman, and women aren't even allowed to pray with the men. Women sure know their place with those folks! Keep em knocked up and in the kitchen, and when they're on the rag they're to make themselves scarce because they're "unclean".

I'm not surprised your hillbillies aren't making you happy, they're manly men but likely have no fucking idea what you're talking about when you go off on your rants. Maybe Northern Idaho has more of the ideological type of primitive that you'd find to your taste.

[Speaker to Animals]

What I want is community and society of men that behave like it.

Then it's definitely the Hasids for you. They thank God every day for not making them a woman, and women aren't even allowed to pray with the men. Women sure know their place with those folks! Keep em knocked up and in the kitchen, and when they're on the rag they're to make themselves scarce because they're "unclean".

I'm not surprised your hillbillies aren't making you happy, they're manly men but likely have no fucking idea what you're talking about when you go off on your rants. Maybe Northern Idaho has more of the ideological type of primitive that you'd find to your taste.

Instead of being such a douche and labeling people's opinions you don't like as "rants", try reading those opinions and attempting to understand where they are coming from. Your contempt for all things not liberal urbanite is actually your greatest weakness. That shit is not winning you allies outside the city limits.