Martin Does Not Believe in Free Speech and is Anti-Freedom

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Re: Martin Does Not Believe in Free Speech and is Anti-Freedom

Post by clubgop » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:05 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
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Hell, with all the love Uncle Sam lavishes on the Pentagon, I don't know how a young man in America could ever be caught fetching coffee, if I was your age, living in America? I'd be a 75th Ranger, leading the way.

Never wanted for money when I was a soldier, always had plenty nuff to party hard, next man, stand up, hook up, shuffle to the door.
But military expert GCF says the military can't recruit people older than 18.
How's that? I've had recruits who were 40. We had this one guy who came over with the Vietnamese boat people, he had served with the ARVN in Vietnam, pretty sure he was 40, he was a lean wiry Vietnamese fucker tho, not an ounce of fat on him, his nickname was Victor Charles, but he didn't like that, we kept joking he was gonna knife us in our sleep.
Well we don't take 40 year olds. Not enlisted.

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Re: Martin Does Not Believe in Free Speech and is Anti-Freedom

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:09 am

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But military expert GCF says the military can't recruit people older than 18.
How's that? I've had recruits who were 40. We had this one guy who came over with the Vietnamese boat people, he had served with the ARVN in Vietnam, pretty sure he was 40, he was a lean wiry Vietnamese fucker tho, not an ounce of fat on him, his nickname was Victor Charles, but he didn't like that, we kept joking he was gonna knife us in our sleep.
Well we don't take 40 year olds. Not enlisted.
Constitutionally, we couldn't discriminate on the basis of age, so long as they could meet the standard, there was no age limit.
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Re: Martin Does Not Believe in Free Speech and is Anti-Freedom

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:15 am

Tell you what, this old Vietnamese guy, he was probably a 130lbs, but man he could out hump the kids easy, battleschool to him was a cake walk, he was dumb, like he had language/cultural issues, but he was hard as shoe leather, he just laughed at anything we threw at him, except being called Victor Charles, that he was the only thing that got to him.

In the end, that's what brought him down, he just couldn't fit in, he didn't gel with anybody, culturally, so eventually he got frustrated and quit. There was a lot of hazing back then, everybody teased and picked on everybody else, he couldn't handle it, he took it to heart and then he started flipping out.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:26 am

There was another guy who I think was 40, but he was this white guy Canadian, he had no fuckin' clue what he was getting himself into, he acted like it was office job or something, he was fuckin' useless as tits on a slug, a total fuck up, soft as butter, but he had an attitude, so we fuckin terrorized him.

Funny thing was, after he failed, which was pretty early on, turns out he's a paralegal, so he shows back up, and serves us papers, he's suing us, he hands the paper over the Sergeant-Major, "see you in court!" LOL!
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Smitty-48 wrote:There was another guy who I think was 40, but he was this white guy Canadian, he had no fuckin' clue what he was getting himself into, he acted like it was office job or something, he was fuckin' useless as tits on a slug, a total fuck up, soft as butter, but he had an attitude, so we fuckin terrorized him.

Funny thing was, after he failed, which was pretty early on, turns out he's a paralegal, so he shows back up, and serves us papers, he's suing us, he hands the paper over the Sergeant-Major, "see you in court!" LOL!
Sues who? For What? He doesnt have a case does he?

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Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:37 am

That guy was so much fun, he lipped the Sergeant-Major off like he was a janitor or something, Sar'Major went ballistic, gave us the green light to take the gloves off, I'd never gotten the green light like that before, because nobody had ever lipped a Sar'Major off before, and a Sar'Major is pretty much untouchable, he can do whatever he wants, we went at the guy full bore, but that wasn't enough for the Sar'Major, he wanted this guy to pay dearly, it was open season, we were on rotation 24 hours a day, with one of us assigned to making this guy's life a living hell at all times.
clubgop wrote:Sues who? For What? He doesnt have a case does he?
Oh it was nonsense, the Sar'Major crumpled it up in his face, and we all just started laughing, but honestly, by that time, the guy was half crazed, we terrorized him so brutally, I don't think he was thinking straight anymore, he was a babbling idiot by that point.
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Re: Martin Does Not Believe in Free Speech and is Anti-Freedom

Post by clubgop » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:40 am

Smitty-48 wrote:That guy was so much fun, he lipped the Sergeant-Major off like he was a janitor or something, Sar'Major went ballistic, gave us the green light to take the gloves off, I'd never gotten the green light like that before, because nobody had ever lipped a Sar'Major off before, and a Sar'Major is pretty much untouchable, he can do whatever he wants, we went at the guy full bore, but that wasn't enough for the Sar'Major, he wanted this guy to pay dearly, it was open season, we were on rotation 24 hours a day, with one of us assigned to making this guy's life a living hell at all times.
Like what? I want details.

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Like what? I want details.
Double timing him at all times, he had to double everywhere, and I mean everywhere, with one of us chasing him all the way, one inspection after the next, tear it all down, throw all his shit out the window of the barracks, then make him do it all again, pack drill in the blazing sun, breaking rocks, digging trenches, carrying gerry cans in both hands for hours on end, obstacle course marathons, two minutes to eat, two minutes to go to the latrine, five minutes to shower and shave, two hours to sleep, pack it, unpack it, on the bus, off the bus, up, down, over there, come back here, do this, do that, everything at maximum speed with the dogs on him, all day, all night, just him, and us, shit like that, he didn't get one second to himself, we were just going round the clock, we took six hour shifts, four shifts a day, non stop until he quit.

He actually quit on day two, but the Sar'Major wasn't letting him get away that easy, two weeks to "process the paper work", like we wanted rid of him, but Sar'Major was going to get his pound of flesh, the guy was literally blubbering, crying his eyes out after awhile, but Sar'Major said if we showed him mercy, we would take his place, so no mercy for him.

He really picked the wrong guy to chew off to, like he had no idea how it worked, he had no idea what he was calling down upon him, old school 2 Commando Airborne Regiment Master Warrant, they're cruel and unusual at the best of times, and they don't give a shit about the rules, they control their world, and nobody would inquire about it, unless they killed somebody, and even then, they could probably get away with that too back then.

Funny thing is, the guy could have just sat down and refused to do anything, and there's not much we could have done about it if he was resolute, but he wasn't resolute, he was weak minded, so it just never occurred to him, so he just kept going, like a zombie, it was psychological warfare and we were inside his head.

You know how it is, civilians don't really understand what it's like to be isolated in that world disconnected from everything they know, they think they could handle it, but it's different once your inside the box with no control. We just kept telling him, this is probably your last day, a few more hours and you're free, but then the next day would start when the shift turned over, kafkaeque, like a gulag.

That's the true pain of it, it's not the monotonous hard labour, it's the mindfuck, you just let them recover enough so they are ready to be broken down again, you just give them enough hope, so that they can be psychologically crushed again.
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Re: Martin Does Not Believe in Free Speech and is Anti-Freedom

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:24 am

Tell you what tho; one hell of an exercise program, that guy was pretty chubby when he showed up, and he was much leaner when he left, I mean, he was twitching and talking to himself, be he looked like he was in much better shape.
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Re: Martin Does Not Believe in Free Speech and is Anti-Freedom

Post by Montegriffo » Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:33 am

So how many did he kill when he went on to be a mass shooter/serial killer?
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