It's Happening.

[SuburbanFarmer]

America is great, I don't really see what all the fighting is about down there, seems to be more about some fringe groups getting too much play for clickbait in the media, whenever I meet Americans outside the confines of internet nonsense blathering forums like this, they acknolwedge some issues which are not to their liking, but no "Normies" as the internet fringe calls them, are calling for civil war nor anything like that, this here is just a bubble of hysterical kooks all echo chambering their kookery to one another, I mean, it is amusing, but not to be taken as a seriously as a practical reflection of the state of America writ large.

America's greatness is not in question, regardless of the hysterical ramblings of the Sky is Falling Juggalos ranting and raving in venues like this, who knew?

America's 'greatness' has nothing to do with our internet insanity. It's a general weakness - a sense of ennue, as we watch our institutions corrupted and perverted, one by one. We have no faith in anything, because we've been betrayed by everyone. The illusions of 'personal responsibility' only apply to the plebs now. Nobody blinks an eye when another massive corporation or governmental agency fucks us all in the ass. It's a constant flow of shit coming down the pipe, with no relief but to turn off the news, and look at the weary eyes of our countrymen. All of us forced to tolerate the insanity of PC culture, drug-addled parents with neglected kids running amok, and minorities screaming at the top of their lungs in public for attention. Any sign of frustration is taken as a threatening gesture, causing suspicion from law enforcement and onlookers, as we all wait for the next one of us to lose his mind and blow something up. Meanwhile, local politicians and the wealthy flit about, glad-handing, politely ignoring anything other than glowing support for their brand.

The fuse sputters, as it approaches the charge....

[Smitty-48]

The First American Revolution was about liberty, as it had to be.

The liberty to not pay taxes, and to ethnically cleanse, er I mean "liberate" the Natives off the land you mean.

Too bad about that taxes thing, eh? But the Indians, at least you got that done.

Cry me a river, white-bread panty-waist. Like the other George, the insane one, wouldn't have burnt off every injun as soon as practicable. Stick to the subject if you want be serious. Otherwise we can fuck around all day with gags about evil honkies.

I'm not the honky who asserts good or evil, I merely look at the realpolitik of the matter, if you wanna fuck around with the comic book version of American history Liberty Rambo and the Prepper Commandos, whatevs, I'm just hanging out while I work on my tan, when you go completely off the deep end, I'll just go off back to hockey preseason or whatever.

You can't expect people to take you seriously, when you're not a serious bunch, I don't know why y'all get offended, when you're all acting the hysterical clown round here all day everyday, like, just look at the OP; "ZOMG the sky if falling, it's happening now!"

Ridiculous thread posted by a ridiculous clown being ridiculous, don't brame me round eye, when I take it where I wanna take it, how many idiotic threads like this do we really need? Damn rights I'd rather talk about Vietnam, the French and Indian Wars, or something interesting, rather than join you turkeys in your ZOMG the sky is falling nonsense babbling cavalcade. /shrugs.

You wanna sputter with rage about it? Oh well, no skin off my teeth, like I said; just shooting the breeze in the sunshine here.

[Smitty-48]

And, even if you were going to talk about risk in the global economy in terms of the 14 trillion dollars in off the books debt which could come back to bite the bailout in the ass, that would be more interesting, but that's not even what you do, instead it all comes back to Liberty Rambo and the Prepper Commandos, which, again; Jugallos. I'm fine with talking commandos n' shit, but let's talk about the real deal, up the Ia Drang Valley, where it really went down, ya'll ain't the Minutemen, so why do we have to pretend like you are? It's silly.

[Smitty-48]

America's 'greatness' has nothing to do with our internet insanity. It's a general weakness - a sense of ennue, as we watch our institutions corrupted and perverted, one by one. We have no faith in anything, because we've been betrayed by everyone.

As opposed to what? The America where everything was squeaky clean and there was no corruption nor perversion of institutions?

What are judging America against?

An America which does not exist and never did, who knew?

If America is not great now, then it never was, if you've been betrayed now, you were betrayed from the very beginning apparently.

[SuburbanFarmer]

America's 'greatness' has nothing to do with our internet insanity. It's a general weakness - a sense of ennue, as we watch our institutions corrupted and perverted, one by one. We have no faith in anything, because we've been betrayed by everyone.

As opposed to what? The Americans of yore who lived in the America where everything was squeaky clean and there was no corruption nor perversion of institutions?

What are judging America against?

An America which does not exist and never did, who knew?

There was, of course, a time when people generally believed in the idea of America. That time is gone now.

[Smitty-48]

America's 'greatness' has nothing to do with our internet insanity. It's a general weakness - a sense of ennue, as we watch our institutions corrupted and perverted, one by one. We have no faith in anything, because we've been betrayed by everyone.

As opposed to what? The Americans of yore who lived in the America where everything was squeaky clean and there was no corruption nor perversion of institutions?

What are judging America against?

An America which does not exist and never did, who knew?

There was, of course, a time when people generally believed in the idea of America. That time is gone now.

Like I said, you can trace the breach right back to the Ia Drang Valley at LZ Albany in 1965, that's the exact moment when Johnson blew the faithful republic up, that was the lie which led to the sequence of lies which caused confidence in governance to collapse, right before that, American faith in governance what at its absolute and in fact unquestioning zenith.

[SuburbanFarmer]

As opposed to what? The Americans of yore who lived in the America where everything was squeaky clean and there was no corruption nor perversion of institutions?

What are judging America against?

An America which does not exist and never did, who knew?

There was, of course, a time when people generally believed in the idea of America. That time is gone now.

Like I said, you can trace the breach right back to the Ia Drang Valley at LZ Albany in 1965, that's the exact moment when Johnson blew the faithful republic up, that was the lie which led to the sequence of lies which caused confidence in governance to collapse, right before that, American faith in governance what at its absolute and in fact unquestioning zenith.

Well, then I suppose that's what we would measure against. That's when America was "great", and that's why when Trump brought it up, everyone instantly thought of the 1950s. No other reference needed.

[Smitty-48]

There was, of course, a time when people generally believed in the idea of America. That time is gone now.

Like I said, you can trace the breach right back to the Ia Drang Valley at LZ Albany in 1965, that's the exact moment when Johnson blew the faithful republic up, that was the lie which led to the sequence of lies which caused confidence in governance to collapse, right before that, American faith in governance what at its absolute and in fact unquestioning zenith.

Well, then I suppose that's what we would measure against. That's when America was "great", and that's why when Trump brought it up, everyone instantly thought of the 1950s. No other reference needed.

Well, that's still a nostalgia for an America that never was, because it wasn't the case that institutions were not corrupted in the 1950's, it's not the case that they weren't lying to you in the 1950's, including lying to you about Vietnam, but the Ia Drang Valley lie was simply the lie that took it one step too far, inciting a sequence of lies to coverup the coverups, all the way to catastrophe, causing the house of cards to collapse in public, but it's not actually like they weren't getting you deep into a quagmire in Indochina back in the 1950's, because that's where it started, the only thing was, they hadn't dragged the whole country into it, particularly the middle class by that point, so no one paid any attention to their lies, never mind question them.

[DBTrek]

There is no collapse.
Plenty of people still believe in America.
Just not the ones that have the time to play victim over their demographics (or the demographics of others) on social media all day.

In 2015, 46,630,000 people living in the United States were born in other countries

Population of Canada: 32,623,490 people

We have more people that have uprooted their lives and migrated to our bountiful land of freedom than our Northern neighbor has citizens.

Nothing wrong with America.
Only reason it "appears" that America has issues is because we're so damn wealthy and free that the useless whiners which die off of various causes in other countries have plenty of food and internet access in the USA.

[Smitty-48]

Point of order, the population of Canada is 36 million now, but other than that, I have no quarrel with the assertion that there isn't actually that much wrong with America, at least, no more wrong than it ever was, and I certainly do not judge American against a nostalgia for an America that never was, I like America, and always have, warts n' all.

Anytime y'all want to knock off the sky is falling nonesense blathering, fine by me, it's getting pretty boring now, I don't understand how you don't get sick of declaring the sky is about to fall all day everyday and trashing America as being some sort of tyranny, let's move on to another topic, please do.