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Re: Outdoors thread

Post by doc_loliday » Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:20 am

Using a roll cast or getting in the water and casting upstream are two possibilities for when the shrubbery is too much.

Fly fishing is a really inexpensive way to fish btw, but like anything you can make it expensive. Each trip I only need to buy a few flies.

Also, I don't bother fly fishing in areas that get fished regularly, once that happens the fish get spooked and stop eating the surface bugs. I can only speak for streams in the Sierras though.

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Re: Outdoors thread

Post by C-Mag » Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:55 am

doc_loliday wrote:Using a roll cast or getting in the water and casting upstream are two possibilities for when the shrubbery is too much.

Fly fishing is a really inexpensive way to fish btw, but like anything you can make it expensive. Each trip I only need to buy a few flies.

Also, I don't bother fly fishing in areas that get fished regularly, once that happens the fish get spooked and stop eating the surface bugs. I can only speak for streams in the Sierras though.
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Where I may differ from you is I fish Wet Flies and Emergers most of the time. Because fish eat 90% + of their food subsurface, that's where I fish. Now getting a fish to rise and take dry flies is awesome, and an Elk Hair Caddis should be in everyones kit, but if you want Protein like Doc.......... most of the time it's wet flies.

Of course if there's a hatch on, that's what you need to be fishing. Another pretty universally effective fly are things like Ants, have a black and red depending on your area. Because everywhere has Ants.
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Re: Outdoors thread

Post by doc_loliday » Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:02 am

Yeah, I like use wet flies too and I've found fish are more likely to take to them. It's definitely more challenging to fish with wet flies though, especially on larger streams, since it requires some weight to get them to sink and then you have to properly mimic their emerging swim. In the Sierra streams, I've probably had the most luck with something like this, a copper john.


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Re: Outdoors thread

Post by C-Mag » Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:11 am

doc_loliday wrote:Yeah, I like use wet flies too and I've found fish are more likely to take to them. It's definitely more challenging to fish with wet flies though, especially on larger streams, since it requires some weight to get them to sink and then you have to properly mimic their emerging swim. In the Sierra streams, I've probably had the most luck with something like this, a copper john.


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Yep, Emergers Kill it. Midday to early evening in the Rocky Mountains. Generally greenish ones though. I like to use floating line, then a little pull and the weight bead head rises.

I do all kinds of 'Non- Fly Fishing' stuff with flies. I'll use 2 hooks, I'll use a dry fly like a buoyant hopper on one, and a small hook and worm drifting below, I've used small meps spinners on a fly rod too. Whatever it takes to get dinner. Plus it's fun to figure out how to get them to bite.
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Re: Outdoors thread

Post by doc_loliday » Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:25 am

That's pretty cool, I've used a wetfly dry fly combo, but I never thought of just throwing on a worm...

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Re: Outdoors thread

Post by TheReal_ND » Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:13 am

Well I'm pretty fucking heated right now. I can't get this stupid level wind to cast more than a couple feet. Fuck this. Fuck it all

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Re: Outdoors thread

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:37 am

Have you caught a single fish yet?

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Re: Outdoors thread

Post by TheReal_ND » Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:45 am

Yeah bait. Hell a couple were almost pan fish. Should have just cooked the fuckers

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Re: Outdoors thread

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:48 am

This is why I don't want to get into fly fishing. I mean.. I want to catch fish that I don't have to pay for. But I don't want to spend a couple hundred dollars on gear and then spend all day in a creek only to have to buy ground beef on the way home.

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Re: Outdoors thread

Post by TheReal_ND » Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:01 pm

Well you have to learn how to fly fish like I have to learn how to use these stupid baitcasters I've sold myself on. I haven't spent any money that was wasted other than the eleven foot pole that I snapped because I was using too much weight on I think. I just have to learn to use this retarded shit. All I've ever actually known was spinning reels. I should have just stuck with that. If you're down just stick with what you know imo. Not a good time to "invest" in equipment you aren't familiar with.

Fuck this levelwind and fuck this stupid pole I know it's a trolling pole and not a casting pole that faggot lied to me