What is the Chance of an Electoral College Revolt?

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Re: What is the Chance of an Electoral College Revolt?

Post by Ex-California » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:52 pm

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Okeefenokee wrote:We need to go after the employers exclusively. I don't harbor any ill will towards people who come here wanting to work hard for their family.
Other than the fact they broke the fucking law and know it.
But they are coming to work. Contrary to popular belief, they're not coming here for a our wonderful free healthcare and free food
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Re: What is the Chance of an Electoral College Revolt?

Post by TheReal_ND » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:57 pm

And we are building factories to put them to work in Mexico lol. Mexicans aren't highring border jumpers. We do. It's not even fucking Mexicans anymore it's every failed fucking state south of the border now. Fuck it.

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Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Dec 04, 2016 12:08 am

No, he's right that they aren't coming here to MAGA. They send their paychecks home. I just don't think targeting them is the way to go. People will always go to where they think is better for them. It's the employers that are willing to hire them to exploit cheap illegal labor that we should focus on. Those are the fuckers that are gaining from the whole system. Start raiding construction sites and jailing contractors with illegals on their crews. That was my initial beef with Trump. I worked on a project that had his name. I got hired after the team of illegals got fired for sucking. Manual labor trades in America exploit cheap illegal labor no differently than apple exploits cheap Chinese labor. Make it insufferable and it will stop. Put them in jail.
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Re: What is the Chance of an Electoral College Revolt?

Post by LVH2 » Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:03 am

AndrewBennett wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:We need to go after the employers exclusively. I don't harbor any ill will towards people who come here wanting to work hard for their family.
Other than the fact they broke the fucking law and know it.
But they are coming to work. Contrary to popular belief, they're not coming here for a our wonderful free healthcare and free food
Also, the current system is designed to draw them over, so the bosses can have a lot of cheap labor with no rights and so forth. Everybody knows it's against our laws, and everybody knows those laws are meant to be broken and that their labor is wanted here.

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Re: What is the Chance of an Electoral College Revolt?

Post by LVH2 » Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:07 am

Okeefenokee wrote:And I'm talking about the legions of blue collar construction workers I've grown up with who can't find work because every contractor wants to hire Guatemalans.
It's no only them. It's every other worker, and I reckon it ripples up pretty high. Your boss treats you badly. You can't go Office Space and quit to do construction, work in a factory, work in a kitchen etc. So you just have to eat it.

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Re: What is the Chance of an Electoral College Revolt?

Post by Ex-California » Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:38 am

LVH2 wrote:
AndrewBennett wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote:
Other than the fact they broke the fucking law and know it.
But they are coming to work. Contrary to popular belief, they're not coming here for a our wonderful free healthcare and free food
Also, the current system is designed to draw them over, so the bosses can have a lot of cheap labor with no rights and so forth. Everybody knows it's against our laws, and everybody knows those laws are meant to be broken and that their labor is wanted here.
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Re: What is the Chance of an Electoral College Revolt?

Post by clubgop » Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:22 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:Kek he still thinks they don't demand proper wages
Yeah, hand an illegal $40 under the table and you just paid more than a day's pay at min. wage.

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Re: What is the Chance of an Electoral College Revolt?

Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:28 pm

Nobody gets payed minimum wage for labor. That's the first fallacy I don't think people understand. If I want to do the American equivalent of being Mexican for a day, I go to a labor center and fill out my forms and get taxed legally taking home $65 a day. You literally can't find a place that will pay under or over the counter so low as minimum wage for labor.

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Re: What is the Chance of an Electoral College Revolt?

Post by Ex-California » Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:32 pm

clubgop wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote:Kek he still thinks they don't demand proper wages
Yeah, hand an illegal $40 under the table and you just paid more than a day's pay at min. wage.
Not here.
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Re: What is the Chance of an Electoral College Revolt?

Post by clubgop » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:31 pm

AndrewBennett wrote:
clubgop wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote:Kek he still thinks they don't demand proper wages
Yeah, hand an illegal $40 under the table and you just paid more than a day's pay at min. wage.
Not here.
Considering min. wage employees are cutting their hours to keep welfare benefits and businesses doing the same for their own reasons that is not something to brag about.