A controversial Democratic operative considered a Clinton "hatchet man" wrote a second anti-Trump memo, which was presented to the FBI in October 2016 by former UK spy Christopher Steele, according to reporting by theGuardian, one day after the House Intel Committee voted to release the confidential and "shocking" FISA memo to the public.
This “second dossier” was authored by Cody Shearer, a former journalist and political activist for the Clinton White House in the 1990s. According to the Guardian, it confirms Steele’s claim that Trump was “compromised” by the Russian intelligence in 2013, during a trip to Moscow that involved “lewd acts” at a five-star hotel.
Cody Shearer cites an unnamed source within Russia's Security Service (FSB) for his claims, meaning that both anti-Trump dossiers tied to Hillary Clinton used Russian disinformation to discredit and undermine a candidate for U.S. President.
Citing a "source with knowledge of the inquiry," the Guardian reported that the FBI was “still working on” the Shearer dossier, suggesting the bureau was taking at least some of it seriously. "It raises the possibility that parts of the Steele dossier, which has been derided by Trump’s supporters, may have been corroborated by Shearer’s research, or could still be,” wrote the Guardian's Stephanie Kirchgaessner and Nick Hopkins.
was this already known? why is this only coming out now? who paid for this one? are we going to need to go through 6 months of arm wrestling to get information? did i just not read the entire article? these are all important questions
I don't know much about it, but it sounds like this is Nunes' Phase II of Operation Disinfectant ......................... and we should be learning more about it soon.
Seems like Trumpists have gotten a boner for the "Nunes memo" prepared by the Trump team.
(Wonder what happened to Nunes stepping to the side from the Russia investigation after getting caught informing the White House about the investigation in April)
Yeah, conveniently doesn't note that Carter Page surfaced to the FBI with two Russian spies talking about how an eager recruit the asshole is in 2013. Or that actually it was the Republicans that hired Fusion GPS in the first place. But of course, the facts don't matter, the impression that is left to people who don't bother even to read it matters.
And btw, hilariously the "Nunes memo" goes against Trump's own line that Page wasn't an advisor to him.
So it's La la land spinning, not perhaps to the Seth Rich or pizzagate level, but we likely get their. GOP is good at it.
And Trumpist will believe absolutely fucking everything.
Hey, I remember when you laughed at Trump as being a serious candidate and when Trump said he was spied on, now your laughing about the justification for the spying.................. your track record isn't too good.
Carter Page............. the so-called Russian expert and volunteer on the Trump campaign. Carter Page sat on a campaign committee that met only once during the campaign. Under suspicion by the FBI since 2013, but never arrested that doesn't sound right.
In March 2016 Carter Page Was an FBI Employee – In October 2016 FBI Told FISA Court He’s a Spy…
In 2013 Carter Page was working as an “under-cover employee” (UCE) of the FBI, helping them to build a case against “Evgeny Buryakov”. In March 2016 Carter Page remained their informant pre-trial leading to a pleading of guilty from Buryakov.
In April 2017, writing a story about Carter Page (trying to enhance/affirm the Russian narrative), the New York Times outlined Page’s connections to the Trump campaign. However, New York Times also references Page’s prior connection to the Buryakov case. If you ignore the narrative, you discover the UCE1 (Under Cover Employee) description is Carter Page.
Carter Page was working for the FBI. Page was the “analyst from a New York-based energy company” who “began providing Sporyshev with the binders“. The F.B.I. inserted a listening device into binders that were passed to the Russian intelligence operatives during an energy conference.
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:Incidentally, the exact same reason Starsky and Hutch never arrested Huggy Bear Brown.
So, the FBI used Carter Page - FBI Asset and a Fake Dossier as a reason to get a FISA Court Warrant to spy on Trump................. I'm really glad I'm paying for the FBI.
Carter Page was an FBI Under-Cover Employee in 2013, and remained the primary FBI witness through May of 2016.
If Carter Page was working as an UCE (FBI undercover employee), responsible for the bust of a high level Russian agent in 2013 -and remained a UCE- throughout the court caseUP TO May of 2016, how is it possible that on October 21st 2016 Carter Page is put under a FISA Title 1 surveillance warrant as an alleged Russian agent?
IMO, they were Spying on Trump all along and ginned up this operation to make their spying retroactively legal. Frankly it wouldn't surprise me if they spied on all the Presidential candidates, Rand Paul, Dr Carson, even Bernie Sanders............ Except Hillary and Jeb, they were probably off limits.
C-Mag wrote:Hey, I remember when you laughed at Trump as being a serious candidate
No.
Because I didn't say so.
I said he was the rodeo clown THAT COULD STEAL THE SHOW. And marked that actually that "rodeo clowns" are quite capable, in Spain they are called matadors. I thought Trump could win the GOP primaries. How he would go against the Democratic contender, I hadn't a clue. And in the end, it was a close election.
C-Mag wrote:In 2013 Carter Page was working as an “under-cover employee” (UCE) of the FBI, helping them to build a case against “Evgeny Buryakov
Bullshit, C-Mag, pure bullshit
But of course, the link "Conservativetreehouse" should tell it all.
Yep, it goes on to the US Southern District webpage. Yet that document has NO FUCKING MENTION of any Carter Page or any third person being undercover. Nothing in that links to Carter being an FBI agent. But that's all that "Conservativetreehouse" gives. What the actual DOJ document says:
The FBI obtained the recordings after Sporyshev attempted to recruit an FBI undercover employee (“UCE-1”), who was posing as an analyst from a New York-based energy company. In response to requests from Sporyshev, UCE-1 provided Sporyshev with binders containing purported industry analysis written by UCE-1 and supporting documentation relating to UCE-1’s reports, as well as covertly placed recording devices. Sporyshev then took the binders to, among other places, the Residentura.
Let's take it back a notch: The FBI was ALREADY wiretapping a conversation of the Russian spies and then they were talking about Carter Page. They ALREADY HAD THE GODDAM CASE. They were already getting the stuff on that they were spies, being recorded in the Residentura. Then they afterwards went to interview Carter Page.
Page was never accused during the Buryakov case of having been successfully recruited or of spying. FBI agents say in the court record that they interviewed "Male-1" in June 2013. During the interview, Page described how he and the man identified as a Russian recruiter, Victor Podobnyy, met periodically and exchanged emails about the energy industry, but nothing in the court document suggests that Page shared any sensitive information with Podobnyy. Rather, it appears they spoke in much the way business executives seeking opportunities do — with Page touting his work ties to the Russian energy firm Gazprom. The Russians were heard laughing, saying Page had no idea they were government agents.
The FBI said "Male-1" provided the Russians his "outlook on the current and future of the energy industry" and "also provided documents … about the energy business."
So, the FBI didn't have anything on Page. Yep, Page gave the Russians info, but it wasn't confidential. But naturally the FBI took notice that the guy was so eagerly playing to the Russians. Hence the idea that Page was the "recruited as the agent" is la-la-land stuff.
And the agent? Well, as stated above in the DOJ file, he was an FBI agent:
The FBI eavesdropped on meetings involving Russian intelligence personnel in New York City, including a suspected spy posing as a trade representative, by hiding recorders in binders containing supposedly confidential information about the energy sector, U.S. prosecutors said.
The hours of covert recordings from 2013 were disclosed in papers filed in Manhattan federal court on Tuesday in the case of Evgeny Buryakov, a Russian citizen who U.S. prosecutors say posed as a banker while participating in a Cold War-style spy ring.
[…] According to prosecutors, in April 2012, Sporyshev met an undercover FBI employee posing as an analyst at a New York energy firm at an oil and gas industry conference.
Over the next two years, they met to discuss the industry and other economic and political issues, prosecutors said, with Sporyshev providing gifts and cash for information.
In 2013, the FBI employee began providing Sporyshev with the binders containing purported industry analysis he wrote, supporting documents, and “covertly placed recording devices,” prosecutors wrote.
(Reuters)
And seriously, IF Carter Page WOULD have been an agent working for the FBI, I seriously think that Nunes and all the other GOPsters would be yapping about it all the time.
And furthermore, it was Preet Bharara that sentenced Evgeni Buryakov.
And Guess who fired this judge that had handled Russian spies?
That's a favour for Putin (and good move for the future).
Oh, for fucks sake ssu................. you ever read.
When you read The Times article (2017), against the backdrop of the Reuters article (2016), and the DOJ release (2016) it is transparently clear that Carter Page was the Under-Cover Employee (UCE1) of the FBI in the 2013 case.
Carter Page was working for the FBI. Page was the “analyst from a New York-based energy company” who “began providing Sporyshev with the binders“.
C-Mag wrote:Oh, for fucks sake ssu................. you ever read.
When you read The Times article (2017), against the backdrop of the Reuters article (2016), and the DOJ release (2016) it is transparently clear that Carter Page was the Under-Cover Employee (UCE1) of the FBI in the 2013 case.
Carter Page was working for the FBI. Page was the “analyst from a New York-based energy company” who “began providing Sporyshev with the binders“.
And that's ALL BULLSHIT!
Just look at the above DOJ release and court documents, the above is simply nonsense.
The fucking eavesdropping of Sporyshev STARTED IN 2012! UCE1 is simply not MALE-1, which referred to Carter Page. It simply cannot be. Because UCE1 got the binders to eavesdrop, which then produced the conversation about MALE-1, Carter Page. Carter Page came into the picture 8th OF APRIL 2013 when Sporyshev and Pobodnyy were talking about the guy, who they accurately thought of being an idiot. Just like the two Russian spies talked about Female-1 and Female-2 on the same day. And then the FBI Agents interviewed Carter Page in June 2013. The "transparently clear" thing above is just whacky stupidity. Or do you think that FBI agents would give false statements about how things folded, because uh, they wanted the Russian spies to be freed or what? It would not make any sense to give the Russian spies defence such an opening for nothing.
The idea is just as whacky as Seth Rich hacking things after his death. Because nothing there or below states what the Trump apologist site says being "transparently clear".
The FBI obtained the recordings after Sporyshev attempted to recruit an FBI undercover employee (“UCE-1”), who was posing as an analyst from a New York-based energy company. In response to requests from Sporyshev, UCE-1 provided Sporyshev with binders containing purported industry analysis written by UCE-1 and supporting documentation relating to UCE-1’s reports, as well as covertly placed recording devices. Sporyshev then took the binders to, among other places, the Residentura.
During subsequent recorded conversations, Sporyshev and Podobnyy discussed, among other things, Sporyshev’s SVR employment contract and his official cover position, their work as SVR officers, and the FBI’s July 2010 arrests of 10 SVR agents in the United States, known as the “Illegals.”
Further, Sporyshev and Podobnyy were recorded discussing, among other things, their (i) attempting to recruit New York City residents as intelligence sources for Russia; (ii) tasking BURYAKOV to gather intelligence; and (iii) transmitting intelligence reports prepared by BURYAKOV back to SVR headquarters in Moscow.
So obviously this site you refer to just thinks it has to Carter Page, because Page was in the Energy business. Who the hell other than those in the energy business have interest in Russia??? Energy sector people are the only ones truly trying to get into the Russian market and making deals with Russians.
that doesn't sound right.
