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[StCapps]

Yeah, well, suck it, Ivan, you'd best not fuck with us then, because you well know that you don't stand a chance if it ever comes to that.

Better to take as many Americans with them as they can, since America is going to nuke them anyway, perhaps for no discernable reason, if Smitty is CinC anyway.

Ivan's not going to do that, but tell you what, when you're CinC, you can suck Ivan's dick and try to appease him, but when I'm CinC, Ivan will be on notice, all options are on the table, so stick to your knitting, Ivan, we know you ain't gonna do shit about shit, so don't bother fronting, your bluff is called, and we just raised you too, bitch.

No argument, just rhetorical flourishes. You'll never get to be CinC with idiotic plans like "Nuke North Korea for no reason and no benefit, because I want a new Cold War to get as hot as possible, Smitty needs a new truck, fuck America!"

As CinC Smitty isn't out to help America, he's out to be Nuclear Hitler so he can live out his cold war fantasies. I thought the point of being CinC of America was to make decisions that will help America, not waste resources so you can play Army and piss off liberals.

Seriously you to learn when to drop a lost argument sometimes, you just dig in no matter what and never back down, even when you obviously can't be more wrong. Is there not better fantasies you can concoct other than "nuke North Korea for no reason", it can't honestly be this fun to still be pretending that is your actual position.

[Smitty-48]

Use em' or lose em', America would be coming for Russia next, the Russians would be forced to prepare accordingly, and they'd be full retard to assume otherwise. America has only nuked a nation that couldn't retaliate in kind, the second the US nukes a nation who could retaliate, other nations with nukes would be fools to not take notice and take precautions that it doesn't also happen to them, and that won't play for American interests. Nuking North Korea isn't worth it, any way that you slice it.

The deterrent to the Russians is the TRIAD, it's an effective deterrent, Russian use them or lose them is a threat which exists at all times, we're fully apprised of the Russian first strike capabilities, and as such, there is a massive preemptive first strike and/or survival second strike capability to keep that in check, not to mention constant tracking and evaluation of theirs, same as there ever was, hence, moot point.

[StCapps]

Use em' or lose em', America would be coming for Russia next, the Russians would be forced to prepare accordingly, and they'd be full retard to assume otherwise. America has only nuked a nation that couldn't retaliate in kind, the second the US nukes a nation who could retaliate, other nations with nukes would be fools to not take notice and take precautions that it doesn't also happen to them, and that won't play for American interests. Nuking North Korea isn't worth it, any way that you slice it.

The deterrent to the Russians is the TRIAD, it's an effective deterrent, Russian use them or lose them is a threat which exists at all times, we're fully apprised of the Russian first strike capabilities, and as such, there is a massive preemptive first strike and/or survival second strike capability to keep that in check, not to mention constant tracking and evaluation of theirs, same as there ever was, hence, moot point.

Ratcheting up tensions can lead to the nukes flying. Deterrence is not assurance, and nuking North Korea isn't worth pissing off the Russians, the Chinese and every other nuclear power. Even if they run like little bitches in the face of such high stakes with America daring any challenger to step to them, why risk it?

If you were CinC, you would not act in America's best interests, so why should America take your advice on what you would do if you were CinC? Doesn't seem like they should heed your advise at all, when your decisions as CinC don't do them any favors.

[Smitty-48]

Ratcheting up tensions can lead to the nukes flying. Deterrence is not assurance, and nuking North Korea isn't worth pissing off the Russians, even if they run like little bitches.

If you were CinC, you would not act in America's best interests, so why would America take your advice on what you would do as CinC? They'd be idiots to listen to you.

The Americans will get with the program if I am CinC, not the liberals and lolbergs of course, but there's plenty enough Hawks in America to redefine the political paradigm in order to make use of tactical nuclear weapons against rogue states with nuclear weapons pointed at the CONUS, the new paradigm.

In fact, the Hawks in America, would be gaga for it, you can't swing a cat in America without hitting somebody yipping about "just nuke the bastards", its actually quite a broad and deep base, certainly with Republicans.

And I'm not concerned with "pissing off" the Russans, they're always "pissed off" about something America is doing, so no change there, but they're always deterred by America's massive military advantage over them, full spectrum dominance, so no change there neither.

[StCapps]

Deterrence is not Assurance. There is a big change from nuking a nation who can't retaliate, to nuking one who theoretically could. All of sudden those who can retaliate have nowhere near the deterrence that they thought they did, and they are more likely to lash out feeling like America are already trying to box them in, and as soon as they complete the task, they are on the chopping block. That situation is a lot less stable than North Korea is currently, it obvious which problem America would rather have, and that problem is an unstable North Korea.

[Smitty-48]

Deterrence is not Assurance. There is a big change from nuking a nation who can't retaliate, to nuking one who theoretically could. All of sudden those who can retaliate have nowhere near the deterrence that they thought they did, and a more likely to lash out feeling they are already boxed in and on the chopping block.

Already adressed that, there's no change there, the Russians are deterred by the TRIAD, and demonstrating resolve to actually use nuclear weapons live fire, simply enhances said deterrent effects, it's called the Balance of Terror, not the balance of suckin' Ivan's dick, for a reason.

[StCapps]

Already adressed that, there's no change there, the Russians are deterred by the TRIAD, and demonstrating resolve to actually use nuclear weapons live fire, simply enhences said deterrent effects, it's called the Balance of Terror, not the balance of suckin' Ivan's dick, for a reason.

Since when is nuking North Korea for no reason anywhere near the best way to deter Russia? Seems to me if that is your goal, there are infinitely better ways to go about it, and you are being counter-productive with your idiotic nuke NK suggestion.

You still can't even say how it would benefit America to follow your advice, yet you are advising they take drastic action. Why should they listen, especially when your reasons for advocating such advise suck so much?

[Smitty-48]

Already adressed that, there's no change there, the Russians are deterred by the TRIAD, and demonstrating resolve to actually use nuclear weapons live fire, simply enhences said deterrent effects, it's called the Balance of Terror, not the balance of suckin' Ivan's dick, for a reason.

Since when is nuking North Korea for no reason anywhere near the best way to deter Russia?

Deterrence is a equation of how much the Russians believe America to be resolved to actually use nuclear weapons, using nuclear weapons is an inherent demonstration of said resolve, the ulitmate firepower demonstration, and the Russians are not going to commit national suicide for North Korea, so it is a safe, effective, and ironclad deterrent strategy.

[StCapps]

Already adressed that, there's no change there, the Russians are deterred by the TRIAD, and demonstrating resolve to actually use nuclear weapons live fire, simply enhences said deterrent effects, it's called the Balance of Terror, not the balance of suckin' Ivan's dick, for a reason.

Since when is nuking North Korea for no reason anywhere near the best way to deter Russia? Seems to me if that is your goal, there are infinitely better ways to go about it, and you are being counter-productive with your idiotic nuke NK suggestion.

Deterrence is a equation of how much the Russians believe America to be resolved to actually use nuclear weapons, using nuclear weapons is an inherent demonstration of said resolve, the ulitmate firepower demonstration, and the Russians are not going to commit national suicide for North Korea, so it is a safe, effective, and ironclad deterrent strategy.

Unless the Russians think you're a rogue actor who is imminent threat to the nation, just like you viewed NK. Then it's real shitty gamble that could lead to much less stable world, to say the least. They aren't necessarily going to react in rational way, cornered animals rarely do. They won't commit national suicide for North Korea, but they might commit national suicide if they think the US has actually gone insane and will take them out the first good chance they get.

[Smitty-48]

Unless the Russians think you're a rogue actor who is imminent threat to the CONUS, just like you viewed NK. Then it's real shitty gamble that could lead to much less stable world, to say the least.

They think that now, so no change there, the only thing new, is that they are even more deterred than ever, since America's resolve to use nuclear weapons against a nuclear threat is more assured than ever, by actually doing it for a change.

There's nothing stable about North Korean nuclear hair trigger alert against the CONUS, which is why it should be dealt with, preemptively, preventing it from coming about, preventing them from inciting an unstable nuclear paradigm therein.