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Post by pineapplemike » Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:12 pm

Haumana wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:05 pm
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Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:59 pm
another thing i havent seen mentioned, i'm assuming the 2nd shooting was in response to the first, and that these are not two separate incidents. is anyone disputing that?

it should be evident to everyone in the media twitter sphere that both sides are escalating the attacks
I am not convinced that the two are connected. Ohio dude killed his sister and shot her boyfriend but I haven't heard where in the timeline that happened. I read reports that she and he were 1st and other reports that she was out in public where most of the shooting occurred. Any updates?
you're right i did forget about the sister and boyfriend. i'm assuming he killed them before the attack, i figure that's more likely at this point, otherwise its either a crazy coincidence or this goes way deeper than i feel like going. maybe she was a trump supporter

havent seen any updates

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Post by C-Mag » Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:15 pm

pineapplemike wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:12 pm
this goes way deeper than i feel like going. maybe she was a trump supporter

havent seen any updates
WOW...……….. that would be crazy, never thought of that.
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Post by Haumana » Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:16 pm

pineapplemike wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:12 pm
you're right i did forget about the sister and boyfriend. i'm assuming he killed them before the attack, i figure that's more likely at this point, otherwise its either a crazy coincidence or this goes way deeper than i feel like going. maybe she was a trump supporter

havent seen any updates
Boyfriend survived, based on the last report that I heard. He might be a key to some clarity if his story ever gets told.

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Post by BjornP » Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:27 pm

pineapplemike wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:59 pm
another thing i havent seen mentioned, i'm assuming the 2nd shooting was in response to the first, and that these are not two separate incidents. is anyone disputing that?

it should be evident to everyone in the media twitter sphere that both sides are escalating the attacks
Escalation will have to involve juggling hand grenades with one hand, shooting kindergardners with the other hand, while live streaming yourself via a rectally inserted camstick. While also playing a recording of some 90's pop song for humorous ironic effect.

Only way to reach the bored GenX and Millenial crowd eager for drama.

No one will bother writing about why these killers are angry enough to end their and others' lives this way.
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Post by C-Mag » Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:34 pm

There's a lot to unpack in the El Paso Shooters Manifesto.
Part I - comments in red


The Inconvenient Truth
About Me
In general, I support the Christchurch shooter and his manifesto. This attack is a response to the Hispanic invasion of Texas. They are the instigator s, not me. I am simply defending my country from cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion. Some people will think this statement is hypocritical because of the nearly complete ethnic and cultural destruction brought to the Native Americans by our European ancestors, but this just reinforces my point. The natives didn’t take the invasion of Europeans seriously, and now what’s left is just a shadow of what was. My motives for this attack are not at all personal. Actually the Hispanic community was not my target before I read The Great Replacement.

This manifesto will cover the political and economic reasons behind the attack, my gear, my expectations of what response this will generate and my personal motivations and thoughts.


The Great Replacement is a book written by Renaud Camus 2011 book (French: Le Grand Remplacement).

Wikipedia accuses the book of being all kinds of right wing, racist and tinfoil hat. However, when you look at the author, and listen to his words he says, "there is nothing right-wing about me. But I just happen to think that today's immigration is the most important thing to have happened to France - ever". He is or has been a Communist most of his life and has written on Communism. And he's an outspoken gay, not that there's anything wrong with that.

This is the book that the shooter claimed spurred him to action. I have not written it. Occams Razor says that a Gay Communist is not going to be writing a bunch of Right Wing stuff.

https://powerbase.info/index.php/Renaud_Camus
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:32 pm

pineapplemike wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:59 pm
another thing i havent seen mentioned, i'm assuming the 2nd shooting was in response to the first, and that these are not two separate incidents. is anyone disputing that?

it should be evident to everyone in the media twitter sphere that both sides are escalating the attacks
It is possible, but I doubt we are there yet. At some point I can see retaliatory mass killings as happens in England now between true English and Muslim colonizers.

My assumption is such an escalation is far more likely to stem from ethnic conflict rather than political/ideological conflict.

All multiethnic societies risk devolution into ethnic civil wars.

Ethnic retaliatory attacks are common in places like Iraq and Syria.

This was daily business in the smoking ruins of Yugoslavia until those ethnicities finally divided up into separate nation states.

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Post by The Conservative » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:34 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:15 pm
pineapplemike wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:12 pm
this goes way deeper than i feel like going. maybe she was a trump supporter

havent seen any updates
WOW...……….. that would be crazy, never thought of that.
Or she may have been part of the crowd that caused him harm in his mind? This kid supposedly had a death list.
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Post by pineapplemike » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:44 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:32 pm
pineapplemike wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:59 pm
another thing i havent seen mentioned, i'm assuming the 2nd shooting was in response to the first, and that these are not two separate incidents. is anyone disputing that?

it should be evident to everyone in the media twitter sphere that both sides are escalating the attacks
It is possible, but I doubt we are there yet. At some point I can see retaliatory mass killings as happens in England now between true English and Muslim colonizers.

My assumption is such an escalation is far more likely to stem from ethnic conflict rather than political/ideological conflict.

All multiethnic societies risk devolution into ethnic civil wars.

Ethnic retaliatory attacks are common in places like Iraq and Syria.

This was daily business in the smoking ruins of Yugoslavia until those ethnicities finally divided up into separate nation states.
the more i'm reading about him the more i suspect it was a direct reaction to the el paso shooting

he liked this tweet apparently 4 hours before the attack
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Post by C-Mag » Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:50 pm

Part II

Political Reasons
In short, America is rotting from the inside out, and peaceful means to stop this seem to be nearly
impossible. The inconvenient truth is that our leaders, both Democrat AND Republican, have been
failing us for decades. They are either complacent or involved in one of the biggest betrayals of the
American public in our history. The takeover of the United States government by unchecked corporations. I could write a ten page essay on all the damage these corporations have caused, but here is what is important.

Due to the death of the baby boomers, the increasingly anti-immigrant rhetoric of the right and the ever increasing Hispanic population, America will soon become a one party-state. The Democrat party will own America and they know it. They have already begun the transition by pandering heavily to the Hispanic voting bloc in the 1st Democratic Debate.

They intend to use open borders, free healthcare for illegals, citizenship and more to enact a political coup by importing and then legalizing millions of new voters. With policies like these, the Hispanic support for Democrats will likely become nearly unanimous in the future. The heavy Hispanic population in Texas will make us a Democrat stronghold. Losing Texas and a few other states with heavy Hispanic population to the Democrats is all it would take for them to win nearly every presidential election.

Although the Republican Party is also terrible. Many factions within the Republican Party are pro-corporation. Pro-corporation = pro-immigration. But some factions within the Republican Party don’t prioritize corporations over our future. So the Democrats are nearly unanimous with their support of immigration while the Republicans are divided over it. At least with Republicans, the process of mass immigration and citizenship can be greatly reduced.

There's not much to argue with there
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Post by Fife » Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:07 pm

Carlus you are fucking around with some bad juju.