The left vs the 23% white separatist contingent

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Since we are in imagination land, sure, I am sure it is just as easy as that.

That sounds a lot like how people described how easy the Palestinian two state solution would be, but, never mind that. Never mind the difference in Canadian law, and the history of French colonies there. It will all be very easy, and if you suggest it won't be a total and complete cake walk, and bring up countless examples of two state solutions and balkanizations that weren't cake walks, well, maybe we will get to hear that terribly witty acronym for the umpteenth time.

My position is not that it would be easy for America to do, my position is that a dystopia isn't required to create a White Ethno State, and any assumptions to the contrary are not well founded, as numerous real life examples show.

You might live in imagination land, but the historical record proves your assumptions to be quite faulty.

Does it now?

We have 'peaceful, two state resolution' from Capps, with a historical record that puts me in the wrong, I guess.

Add to that the fact that maintaining autonomy for an existing colony of a foreign nation, and creating a new 'white' ethno-state from scratch, are very different propositions... but, yes, the historical record doesn't make that look anythin at all more like the Reich than Quebec.

[StCapps]

Does it now?

We have 'peaceful, two state resolution' from Capps, with a historical record that puts me in the wrong, I guess.

Add to that the fact that maintaining autonomy for an existing colony of a foreign nation, and creating a new 'white' ethno-state from scratch, are very different propositions... but, yes, the historical record doesn't make that look anythin at all more like the Reich than Quebec.

Most ethno states aren't a dystopia, the historical record is on my side. Just because the Palestinians are pissed off about the existence of a Jewish Ethno State, that doesn't prove you right.

There are more Quebec's in the historical record when it comes to Ethno States than Nazi Germany, nice try SIFCLF.

[K@th]

If y'all made the necessary changes, then it would be easy.

Except for the part where most Americans would not be on board with it, yes, totally easy.

And, quit pretending DSL doesn't want the entire country to be white. He's arguing that, not that he wants to move to Utah. He can live in a lily white state already. He wants the country to be all white.

So, please, tell him how to get there without support of the majority of Americans.

[Speaker to Animals]

The Constitution is currently neutral on racial majorities. So I’ve no obligation to defend Americanism along racial lines. You’re the one calling for mandated racial majorities, and that’s unAmerican.

You want immigration control, I’m probably in. You want to move non citizens out? I’m probably in. You want to make American synonymous with being white? I’m out. And I suspect any American in their right mind is also out.

You are weaseling again.

I said that I support the proposition that we ought to return to immigration and domestic policies that maintain a white majority of the United States. You lost your shit and screamed racist for dozens of pages now. Then when I asked you how my wanting to maintain our demographic majority is racism but Latinos doing the same is somehow not racism, you lost your shit again and refused to respond to the contradiction. You claimed I am a racist moron because I want to maintain our majority, but when I asked you to defend the notion that we shouldn't remain a majority of the United States, you cried "stop straw manning me, man! I didn't say that!". Well, yeah, you pretty much did. If it is racist and wrong to want to maintain a white majority, and the current policy is designed to end us as the majority demographic of the United States, then your default position is that we ought to be made a minority. Yet you refuse to defend it because you know it's indefensible.

[StCapps]

Except for the part where most Americans would not be on board with it, yes, totally easy.

Exactly, that's my point. You didn't beat me to it, I've been arguing that point longer than you have, ask StA and nukedog if you don't believe.

Je Sanguinis White Ethno State, non-starter in America, however with a few tweaks, it need not be that way, but it would obviously be way easier to just move to Quebec if you want to live in a White Ethno State. That's like my original argument in these Ethno State threads.
/shrugs

[Speaker to Animals]

If y'all made the necessary changes, then it would be easy.

Except for the part where most Americans would not be on board with it, yes, totally easy.

And, quit pretending DSL doesn't want the entire country to be white. He's arguing that, not that he wants to move to Utah. He can live in a lily white state already. He wants the country to be all white.

So, please, tell him how to get there without support of the majority of Americans.

Old Lyin' Kath is at it again.

I forgot what good times it was to be morally lectured by a degenerate who engages in pretend rape.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Does it now?

We have 'peaceful, two state resolution' from Capps, with a historical record that puts me in the wrong, I guess.

Add to that the fact that maintaining autonomy for an existing colony of a foreign nation, and creating a new 'white' ethno-state from scratch, are very different propositions... but, yes, the historical record doesn't make that look anythin at all more like the Reich than Quebec.

Most ethno states aren't a dystopia, the historical record is on my side. Just because the Palestinians are pissed off about the existence of a Jewish Ethno State, that doesn't prove you right.

There are more Quebec's in the historical record when it comes to Ethno States than Nazi Germany, nice try SIFCLF.

Most ethno-states weren't created through partition and balkanization. They grew up around an existing homogeneous group, or out of a colony with existing, separate, laws.

This isn't what would be happening in the US. The historical record, the actual one, not the counterfactual one in your imagination, is not on your side.

Creating new states is not a peaceful process, as a general rule.

[StCapps]

Creating new states is not a peaceful process, as a general rule.

You aren't creating a new state, you are modifying an old one to allow the freedom of association necessary to peacefully create an Ethno State within the old state. That's what I am suggesting, this happens in Canada all the time, organically over a long period of time, the historical record is on my side, especially when it comes to North American examples.

[Speaker to Animals]

Does it now?

We have 'peaceful, two state resolution' from Capps, with a historical record that puts me in the wrong, I guess.

Add to that the fact that maintaining autonomy for an existing colony of a foreign nation, and creating a new 'white' ethno-state from scratch, are very different propositions... but, yes, the historical record doesn't make that look anythin at all more like the Reich than Quebec.

Most ethno states aren't a dystopia, the historical record is on my side. Just because the Palestinians are pissed off about the existence of a Jewish Ethno State, that doesn't prove you right.

There are more Quebec's in the historical record when it comes to Ethno States than Nazi Germany, nice try SIFCLF.

Most ethno-states weren't created through partition and balkanization. They grew up around an existing homogeneous group, or out of a colony with existing, separate, laws.

This isn't what would be happening in the US. The historical record, the actual one, not the counterfactual one in your imagination, is not on your side.

Creating new states is not a peaceful process, as a general rule.

Actually, yeah, for the most part, that's exactly how nation states are formed. Poland and Lithuania are two separate nations now for a reason. Scotland is free to fuck off from England for a reason. I don't see Serbia as part of Austria and I can name about six little nations of people who want fuck all to do with Russia.

[SuburbanFarmer]

I think I see the problem now. We're obviously giving StA/StCapps too much credit. They haven't thought through their ideas.

So let's break it down to kinder-blocks.

1 - Seal off the borders completely. No new immigrants for.... 30 years.
2 - Watch the demographics. Brown-skins continue to impregnate and be impregnated by white-skins.
3 - America turns light-brown.
4 - StA/Cappy see this happening, and lose their shit.
5 - Re-segregate the schools and society.
6 - Welcome back to the 50s!
7 - America continues to brown.
8 - Welcome back to the 30s!


The idea is so absurdly stupid, that most of us are looking to see what you do around Step 5. You're still thinking that it stops at Step 1.