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Re: Star Trek Discovery

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:04 pm

How do those differences make a distinction here?

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Re: Star Trek Discovery

Post by Hwen Hoshino » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:49 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:How do those differences make a distinction here?
Look at bows, nomadic people who know how to use them had an advanatge than it went away.

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:09 pm

Hwen Hoshino wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:How do those differences make a distinction here?
Look at bows, nomadic people who know how to use them had an advanatge than it went away.

Look at the impact one of those fusion EMPs have on CONUS. 1960s tech can reduce us to the 19th century.

It takes considerably less technology to wreck a complex civilization than it takes to build a complex civilization. Therein lies your problem.

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Post by Hwen Hoshino » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:26 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Hwen Hoshino wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:How do those differences make a distinction here?
Look at bows, nomadic people who know how to use them had an advanatge than it went away.

Look at the impact one of those fusion EMPs have on CONUS. 1960s tech can reduce us to the 19th century.

It takes considerably less technology to wreck a complex civilization than it takes to build a complex civilization. Therein lies your problem.
Wrecking does not mean they can just come and take over.

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Re: Star Trek Discovery

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:29 pm

Hwen Hoshino wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Hwen Hoshino wrote: Look at bows, nomadic people who know how to use them had an advanatge than it went away.

Look at the impact one of those fusion EMPs have on CONUS. 1960s tech can reduce us to the 19th century.

It takes considerably less technology to wreck a complex civilization than it takes to build a complex civilization. Therein lies your problem.
Wrecking does not mean they can just come and take over.

Usually, that's exactly what it meant in history.

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Re: Star Trek Discovery

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:35 pm

What is Mexico doing to the United States right now?

Cortez might have showed up with gunpowder and horses five centuries ago, but they kicked the Europeans out of Mesoamerica two centuries ago and they are now slowly taking over the United States. What good was the United State's technological advancement when the American people were willing to hand it all over to the Mexica for low fruit prices?

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Speaker to Animals wrote:What is Mexico doing to the United States right now?

Cortez might have showed up with gunpowder and horses five centuries ago, but they kicked the Europeans out of Mesoamerica two centuries ago and they are now slowly taking over the United States. What good was the United State's technological advancement when the American people were willing to hand it all over to the Mexica for low fruit prices?
Only you could break a discussion on Star Trek and aliens back down to racial paranoia.
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Re: Star Trek Discovery

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:10 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:What is Mexico doing to the United States right now?

Cortez might have showed up with gunpowder and horses five centuries ago, but they kicked the Europeans out of Mesoamerica two centuries ago and they are now slowly taking over the United States. What good was the United State's technological advancement when the American people were willing to hand it all over to the Mexica for low fruit prices?
Only you could break a discussion on Star Trek and aliens back down to racial paranoia.

GCF: Face it, America's future is brown. You can't stop the inevitable.

GCF: OMFG! you can't use that as an example of more primitive people coming to dominate more advanced civilizations!

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Re: Star Trek Discovery

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:13 pm

I have an idea. How about you just make a list of all the examples of barbarians or otherwise less advanced people coming to dominate more advanced civilizations. Then for each item in your list, just pick some random and irrelevant aspect about that event in history and use that as a disqualifying factor for why that example shouldn't count. Then there would be no more counterexamples to your asinine hypothesis!

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Re: Star Trek Discovery

Post by Penner » Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:02 pm

StCapps wrote:
Hwen Hoshino wrote:Voyager had like a zillion other problems...
Well it's the worst Trek series for a reason.

That was Enterprise. It literally killed the franchise for like over ten years and then CBS bought Paramount and rebooted the whole thing. Now we are stuck with the JJ Timeline of "why go to the trouble of creating an alternate timeline when your second movie is basically a remake of one of the best films in the whole franchise and also in cinema history"?
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